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Re: Kana "Who you calling a flower?"
« Reply #1150 on: April 28, 2011, 08:16:15 PM »

At least Ayumi isn't a terrible human being...oh wait, Kana's not terrible because she gives to charity, right?  And she made sure to let us all know that, too...  *eye roll*

Actually I asked about the charity work. Shitting on her for that shows how completely irrational and, for lack of a better term, markish you are being.

This is someone else's gimmick. You're better than this.

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Re: Kana "Who you calling a flower?"
« Reply #1151 on: April 28, 2011, 09:05:48 PM »
If Kana's attitude is just a harmless gimmick, then why is 80% of the Joshi community pissed off at her?

80% of the Joshi community is pissed at her, you have hard numbers on that? It's fairly obvious she has issues with Nanae, but if you think that's because of a gimmick.... She was still working in NEO until it ended, and she seems pretty busy for a Joshi. I've been to Japan three times and have never seen Chikayo Nagashima or Ozaki or Apple Miyuki work. No reason to assume they pissed off anyone. They just only work certain places at the moment.

That being said, even if everything you said was true, it really doesn't matter. Even in your scenario it'd make more sense for 80.2838% of Joshi to be pissed at her for going into business for herself with her gimmick, not for actually believing it. That's entirely unnecessary and unrealistic. It just doesn't make any sense to think she hates Joshi. You could make the argument that other Joshi might not like her for saying this that or the other.  However, to believe she actually thinks that she has no rivals among women so she has to face Ken Ohka requires a deliberate disregard for reality.


More reasons for Kana to throw her own American campaign. However, it's going to take a bit longer for her to reach Ayumi's status. Having said that, I wonder if her current feud (if you can call it that) with the Deeb will have a deterring factor on her chances to tour the states no later than 2012.

It's pretty much the best feud ever, but why would it hurt her chances? Working with someone from the US would probably be a really good thing, like working with girls from Japan here would be a good thing if they end up needing to bring someone over.

Who the hell is this Ayumi?
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Re: Kana "Who you calling a flower?"
« Reply #1152 on: April 28, 2011, 09:46:42 PM »
Can't we all just get along?  *whee

First things first, it was a great job by Leslie (Hyperion) to get the Kana interview. It was something he worked hard on, and PROPS! he got it. He delivered. Hey, no one else has done it. Major props, and he runs a fine site. CUTTING EDGE.

But...a lot of peeps didn't like the way Kana came off. It doesn't mean they are jealous.

And...there are just as many Kanagasms going on as there are "haters" (quotations, because I dont think they are straight hating, they just think she was pompous).

Lastly...someone mentioned going to Japan and plastering Kana with gifts. lmao. If that is how you think you are going to get yourself over with her, fine. Don't be surprised when there's a restraining order. She may headscissor men, but at least it's puroresu. Not "doh sukebe resu".

Some peeps like Kana. Some don't. Some did, but now they don't like how she came off. Doesn't make them jealous.

Great interview, if just for the fact that DDS delivered.
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Re: Kana "Who you calling a flower?"
« Reply #1153 on: April 28, 2011, 09:54:07 PM »
But...a lot of peeps didn't like the way Kana came off. It doesn't mean they are jealous.

I don't think it's jealousy. I'm just always shocked and amused that JoshiFans.com is the one plus you can be assured to find blind, thoughtless anger at a given Joshi. Always. Everyone everywhere else takes the interview for what it is, but here it becomes part of the Joshi fan fic narrative and no amount of reason can change that.

Regular people: "Wow, Kana runs her own businesses and donates to charity."
Joshi 'Fans': "LOL, look at her bragging about donating to charity. How pathetic, she's a terrible person."

Regular people: "Oh she's tough to go out of her way to wrestle men."
Joshi "Fans': "She's a novelty fetish act who probably sleeps her way to bookings."

It's just, past it's expiration date guys. Seriously. We can all be apart of Joshi reality, or keep wallowing in the useless, pointlessly negative fanfic.

Besides, this is an appreciation thread. If you want to trash her here, people are going to disagree. So if anyone doesn't want to argue, go somewhere else.
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Re: Kana "Who you calling a flower?"
« Reply #1154 on: April 28, 2011, 11:03:57 PM »
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Re: Kana "Who you calling a flower?"
« Reply #1155 on: April 29, 2011, 12:04:29 AM »
Kana just posted the interview on her FB with the caption: "Ignorance is a crime."

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Re: Kana "Who you calling a flower?"
« Reply #1156 on: April 29, 2011, 12:59:09 AM »
I don't think it's jealousy. I'm just always shocked and amused that JoshiFans.com is the one plus you can be assured to find blind, thoughtless anger at a given Joshi. Always. Everyone everywhere else takes the interview for what it is, but here it becomes part of the Joshi fan fic narrative and no amount of reason can change that.

Regular people: "Wow, Kana runs her own businesses and donates to charity."
Joshi 'Fans': "LOL, look at her bragging about donating to charity. How pathetic, she's a terrible person."

Regular people: "Oh she's tough to go out of her way to wrestle men."
Joshi "Fans': "She's a novelty fetish act who probably sleeps her way to bookings."

It's just, past it's expiration date guys. Seriously. We can all be apart of Joshi reality, or keep wallowing in the useless, pointlessly negative fanfic.

Besides, this is an appreciation thread. If you want to trash her here, people are going to disagree. So if anyone doesn't want to argue, go somewhere else.
I wholeheartedly agree.
I myself posted the interview on another Wrestling-related board (FPC) and everybody just enjoys the read. Just like it should be.

And, just because this is seriously not sitting well with me.
At least Ayumi isn't a terrible human being...oh wait, Kana's not terrible because she gives to charity, right?  And she made sure to let us all know that, too...  *eye roll*
Are you high?
How can someone, no matter if a fan of Joshi, or a fan of Kana, or a general human being, actually crap on someone donating to charity?! Just seriously low. Like ankle-high. Ugh!

And to clarify, Japanese in specific is a language were you can very easily formulate something in a genuine, or downspoken, or posing (ect.) way.
Do you seriously think someone, who actually uses this tool in her interview to make several statements sound bigger and better, wouldn't do this on that topic as well?
Her answer to this question (so much for her bringing it up) is nothing but genuine.
Several answers are, you can actually see where she's just Kana the (business)person and where she's Kana the wrestling-character.
I'm the guy who translated the interview btw, so I spent quite some time with the interview including a personal conversation with Kana via a social-media website.

So seriously, I normally don't come here (or any message board for that matter) looking for trouble, but you... should be ashamed. Let's leave it at that.


Oh and while I'm already ranting.
If Kana's attitude is just a harmless gimmick, then why is 80% of the Joshi community pissed off at her? She only gets bookings from WAVE and SMASH now, and the Shirais are the only friends she virtually has left.
Where do you take these number from and why do you think you know who likes/dislikes/hates whom?
Have you ever actually spoken to anyone involved in this?
Like first-hand, no he said, she said.
I have.
Both in real life, after shows, and thanks to the possibilities of the internet with a hand full even quite indepth from the comfort of my home.
That's why I'd like to let you know, that you might want to reconsider what you believe to be relieable sources for "information" like that.

Meh, finished with this.
I love this board, but some of the statements here are just aggravating.
edit: slightly toned down, as 22nijuni is somewhat right. the whole charity-thing remains a lowpoint of things I've seen posted on here, though.
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Re: Kana "Who you calling a flower?"
« Reply #1157 on: April 29, 2011, 06:29:51 AM »
Dudes, calm down. The championing is getting as out of hand as the ripping into. No one kicked any dogs.
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Re: Kana "Who you calling a flower?"
« Reply #1158 on: April 29, 2011, 08:23:37 AM »
actually i had difficulty commenting on this since my innards are split between admiration for Kana and the fact that she has a tendency to be full of shit. no other justification though (that is if it's not a gimmick) could be acceptable in order to tolerate stuff that Kana is doing now. as much as she would like to go to America, if this is the kind of interview that would show up then she's botching her own press release

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Re: Kana "Who you calling a flower?"
« Reply #1159 on: April 29, 2011, 08:35:37 AM »
I don't think it's jealousy. I'm just always shocked and amused that JoshiFans.com is the one plus you can be assured to find blind, thoughtless anger at a given Joshi. Always. Everyone everywhere else takes the interview for what it is, but here it becomes part of the Joshi fan fic narrative and no amount of reason can change that.

Regular people: "Wow, Kana runs her own businesses and donates to charity."
Joshi 'Fans': "LOL, look at her bragging about donating to charity. How pathetic, she's a terrible person."

Regular people: "Oh she's tough to go out of her way to wrestle men."
Joshi "Fans': "She's a novelty fetish act who probably sleeps her way to bookings."

It's just, past it's expiration date guys. Seriously. We can all be apart of Joshi reality, or keep wallowing in the useless, pointlessly negative fanfic.

Besides, this is an appreciation thread. If you want to trash her here, people are going to disagree. So if anyone doesn't want to argue, go somewhere else.

Well said, King of Joshi *approve
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Re: Kana "Who you calling a flower?"
« Reply #1160 on: April 29, 2011, 09:06:20 AM »
If you see the latest from Serena (it's in the modern joshi trhead i believe), she's into the whole thing. That makes me feel good about it all.
If someone getting into the ring with her, her peers are fine with the way she is acting, then who am I to not be okay with it. I'm sure if Serena didn't like the way things went in the ring, she's twice the size of Kana, she could squash her legit. She can take care of herself.

(I can hear kudofanatic now..."no one can squash Kana she's the Queen of all pro wrestling, and she's SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO sexy" Dude take a chill pill.)
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Re: Kana "Who you calling a flower?"
« Reply #1161 on: April 29, 2011, 09:17:52 AM »
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion of Kana. What none of you are entitled to is to cram your opinion down any other member's throat.

You can discuss this like mature adults on both sides, or I can set Kana's thread to be locked until every single one of you has watched a Mr. Roger's episode on getting along and have read a treatise on how to agree to disagree.

Hype scored a great interview and kudos to him. However, disagreeing with other members on the board in such a spiteful and condescending manner is not cool. All of you can say your piece without resorting to patronization, vitriol and wild hyperbole, regardless of whether you like her or not.

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Re: Kana "Who you calling a flower?"
« Reply #1162 on: April 29, 2011, 10:18:15 AM »
Its nice to see you around Kori, even if it is to scold us.
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Re: Kana "Who you calling a flower?"
« Reply #1163 on: April 29, 2011, 10:28:37 AM »
For the sake of my own sanity I usually stay out of the wrestler love section 95% of the time but after noticing the interview I had to come read this thread just because I knew it would degenerate into a massive train wreck of awfullness and boy, I was not disapointed.

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Re: Kana "Who you calling a flower?"
« Reply #1164 on: April 30, 2011, 05:21:22 PM »
Neither am I. Since when forum discussions became so objective and pessimistic? Maybe this could settle the mood.

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Re: Kana "Who you calling a flower?"
« Reply #1165 on: May 01, 2011, 12:00:53 AM »
Neither am I. Since when forum discussions became so objective and pessimistic? Maybe this could settle the mood.

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Re: Kana "Who you calling a flower?"
« Reply #1166 on: May 01, 2011, 12:51:47 PM »
Hell to the YEAH!! I have this on my DeviantArt account for about a month now. I based the portrait on a photo of Kana and a window of opportunity opened.

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Re: Kana "Who you calling a flower?"
« Reply #1167 on: May 01, 2011, 01:07:47 PM »
Changed my FB profile pic to the magazine cover featuring Kana's manifesto yesterday  & she replied on my wall today, "good icon, lol" *bwah
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Re: Kana "Who you calling a flower?"
« Reply #1168 on: May 01, 2011, 01:33:11 PM »
Hell to the YEAH!! I have this on my DeviantArt account for about a month now. I based the portrait on a photo of Kana and a window of opportunity opened.
That's cool. I think it looks almost exactly like Miho Wakizawa!
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Re: Kana "Who you calling a flower?"
« Reply #1169 on: May 01, 2011, 01:37:03 PM »
That's cool. I think it looks almost exactly like Miho Wakizawa!


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Re: Kana "Who you calling a flower?"
« Reply #1170 on: May 02, 2011, 10:58:29 PM »
Looking forward to seeing the latest WAVE show. Toshie pinned Kana, should be a hell of a match.
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Re: Kana "Who you calling a flower?"
« Reply #1172 on: May 17, 2011, 07:26:04 AM »
LOL, awesome pic. Now that is salesmanship.

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Re: Kana "Who you calling a flower?"
« Reply #1173 on: June 09, 2011, 09:47:15 AM »


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Re: Kana "Who you calling a flower?"
« Reply #1174 on: June 09, 2011, 04:28:16 PM »
I guess they didn't even pretend that the match was anything other than what it was:  fetish wrestling with workrate.

I will have to admit to liking Lin's ladyberries out there.  That is a really cute bra she's wearing.
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