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Re: The Gaijin Thread
« Reply #100 on: May 15, 2008, 07:10:58 PM »
steamboat syndrome? is that a good thing or a bad thing?
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Re: The Gaijin Thread
« Reply #101 on: May 15, 2008, 07:25:49 PM »
It means there's some difficulty going heel credibly because of being face for so long. I've seen Kendrick do it but I don't think I've seen successful heeling from London. I do remember when he cut that promo after he lost the CW title. He was on both Velocity and Smackdown that week; that was like in 2004.

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Re: The Gaijin Thread
« Reply #102 on: May 15, 2008, 07:29:07 PM »
oh okay, i don't watch steamboat matches as much as i wanted to

i already posted the gaijin announcement at youtube and i'm checking who among the current wrestlers today would be interested in taking yoshida's offer to learn submission wrestling

*keeps my fingers crossed that lacey enrolls herself to the IBUKI school*

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Re: The Gaijin Thread
« Reply #103 on: May 15, 2008, 09:24:20 PM »
my lord the thought of Rebecca Knox learning from Mariko Yoshida makes my head spin!

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Re: The Gaijin Thread
« Reply #104 on: May 15, 2008, 09:39:43 PM »
my lord the thought of Rebecca Knox learning from Mariko Yoshida makes my head spin!

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i have a feeling that TNA saw my vid and might send some of the girls to tokyo for that reason

mio & io vs the beautiful people?
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Re: The Gaijin Thread
« Reply #105 on: May 15, 2008, 09:50:51 PM »
Why would they view some random vid about a promotion they probably don't even know about?

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Re: The Gaijin Thread
« Reply #106 on: May 16, 2008, 12:51:45 AM »
it's common knowledge that women serious with wrestling go to Japan for further training right?

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Re: The Gaijin Thread
« Reply #107 on: May 16, 2008, 01:42:36 AM »
It means there's some difficulty going heel credibly because of being face for so long. I've seen Kendrick do it but I don't think I've seen successful heeling from London. I do remember when he cut that promo after he lost the CW title. He was on both Velocity and Smackdown that week; that was like in 2004.

Brian Kendrick cut a heelish promo on the recent Heat taping after they beat Cade and Murdoch saying that Heat was too small for them and that they were going after the tag team titles.

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Re: The Gaijin Thread
« Reply #108 on: May 16, 2008, 07:13:21 AM »
it's common knowledge that women serious with wrestling go to Japan for further training right?
Usually not at the expense of a TV promotion... not to mention the risk of injury and whatnot. If they wanted to go to Japan and "further their training," they would have done it when the opportunity presented itself. Take Gail Kim, for example. She had some down time between her WWE and TNA runs... and she spent it posing topless. Go figure.

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Re: The Gaijin Thread
« Reply #109 on: May 16, 2008, 10:30:16 AM »
Why must we always berate gail kim? Were you not impressed by her match with kong yesterday?

it's common knowledge that women serious with wrestling go to Japan for further training right?

Not all, and in any case I meant I don't think anyone at TNA's even going to know about this offer, or look at any of your videos.

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Re: The Gaijin Thread
« Reply #110 on: May 16, 2008, 10:57:35 AM »
Why must we always berate gail kim?
Not berating her... just stating a simple fact.
Were you not impressed by her match with kong yesterday?
Nope. Kong continues to impress. Gail, not so much.

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« Reply #111 on: May 16, 2008, 11:00:24 AM »
I've been impressed. Plus she's shown lots of passion with the bumps she's taken. I mean a ladder match and a match with kong all in less than 24 hours is not an easy feat.

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Re: The Gaijin Thread
« Reply #112 on: May 16, 2008, 12:45:40 PM »
Usually not at the expense of a TV promotion... not to mention the risk of injury and whatnot. If they wanted to go to Japan and "further their training," they would have done it when the opportunity presented itself. Take Gail Kim, for example. She had some down time between her WWE and TNA runs... and she spent it posing topless. Go figure.

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i didn't think you would have a problem with her posing topless
but i think the TNA crowd is now noticing that roxxi is better than gail hence the monster face pops for roxxi

i'd like to see more of mschif in japan after i watched her match in Hooligan's youtube account
but it seems to me that she's pretty protective of her gimmick

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Re: The Gaijin Thread
« Reply #113 on: May 16, 2008, 04:29:24 PM »
It means there's some difficulty going heel credibly because of being face for so long. I've seen Kendrick do it but I don't think I've seen successful heeling from London. I do remember when he cut that promo after he lost the CW title. He was on both Velocity and Smackdown that week; that was like in 2004.

Brian Kendrick cut a heelish promo on the recent Heat taping after they beat Cade and Murdoch saying that Heat was too small for them and that they were going after the tag team titles.

Yeah, I heard about that! *haha
Kendrick is a natural heel and the transition will be fine for him.

it's common knowledge that women serious with wrestling go to Japan for further training right?
Usually not at the expense of a TV promotion... not to mention the risk of injury and whatnot. If they wanted to go to Japan and "further their training," they would have done it when the opportunity presented itself. Take Gail Kim, for example. She had some down time between her WWE and TNA runs... and she spent it posing topless. Go figure.

That's because who would spend money to go to Japan and risk injury when they can generate easy income?

Not to be mean you guys but I don't think anyone you sent those vids too is actually going to go to Japan. Most women wrestlers DON'T need to go to Japan. Things run differently in North America and it's just unnecessary. Plus, Japan isn't the end-all-be-all for women's' wrestling; there are some places in the states to go and "better" themselves. It really doesn't work the same way in women's' wrestling as it does in mens' wrestling. Realistically a woman does not need the technical prowess of an Alex Shelley to get booked; all she needs is some sex appeal. For this reason, for the right kinds of women, wrestling is easier to "give notice" in than it is for men. Example: a lot of women who are in the WWE or TNA make it in half the time most men do. Supply and demand; and high turnover rate- plus there's just fewer women in the business anyway. Going to Japan to learn submission wrestling isn't worth it or necessary for most N.A women wrestlers.

Example: Gail Kim knows she doesn't need to learn submission wrestling to maintain her popularity; she just needs to keep her good side out there; hence the posing topless.
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Re: The Gaijin Thread
« Reply #114 on: May 16, 2008, 04:33:23 PM »
I think some will. It's not all about getting on TNA or WWE. Some people just wanna wrestle. I think Ibuki's paying to fly in the girls anyway. I think you're just being really pessimistic about it. And as I said, Mariko Yoshida's a former highflier, so if that's your thing, she can teach it. I mean Chigusa trained Toshie and Chikayo and she's the furthest thing from a highflier.

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Re: The Gaijin Thread
« Reply #115 on: May 16, 2008, 04:40:18 PM »
I think some will. It's not all about getting on TNA or WWE. Some people just wanna wrestle. I think Ibuki's paying to fly in the girls anyway. I think you're just being really pessimistic about it. And as I said, Mariko Yoshida's a former highflier, so if that's your thing, she can teach it. I mean Chigusa trained Toshie and Chikayo and she's the furthest thing from a highflier.



Okay if you want to believe that, go ahead. But from a business standpoint it makes no sense especially when some women already have it made in the shade. It's not pessimisim, it's realism because most of these women have lives outside of wrestling, it really isn't needed because this is not Japan- no matter how much you want it to become more like Japan. Hailey Hatred wanted to go to Japan for 4 years but her mother died and she had other family issues plus she just didn't have the money. We'll see but it probably won't be anyone who's already established.

I'd go in a heartbeat, I just don't see why women with patented schticks would go. HEN brought up the Gail Kim thing for a very good reason; if they wanted to go they already would have or at least made the effort.

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Re: The Gaijin Thread
« Reply #116 on: May 16, 2008, 04:41:55 PM »
well not everyone anyway wanted to be in either TNA or WWE anyway (no matter how obvious that when it comes to wrestling, they're still the mainstream choice). i remember melissa stripes mentioning in her myspace profile if i'm not mistaken that she preferred going to japan than getting booked at either companies. i wonder if she already knew about the IBUKI openings

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Re: The Gaijin Thread
« Reply #117 on: May 16, 2008, 04:45:39 PM »
send it to her. She's got a lot of potential smd it would be awesome for her. I'm all for more women going to Japan but so far, that's not how things work especially with the bigger names.

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Re: The Gaijin Thread
« Reply #118 on: May 16, 2008, 04:55:11 PM »
Dynamite Girl Jennifer Blake replied saying
"O sweet!!!!! Thanks a lot!
-Jen"

And didn't Haily go?


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« Reply #119 on: May 16, 2008, 04:59:35 PM »
Yeah but before she went all these things happened in her life; that's point I was trying to make- she wanted to go forever and a day (4 years) but couldn't; people's lives don't always intersect perfectly.

I took awhile.

And I see no reason for Jennifer Blake to go when she's already got so much hype this early on in her career with her hardcore style and her look; with that look where do you think she's wanting to go?

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Re: The Gaijin Thread
« Reply #120 on: May 16, 2008, 05:08:48 PM »
To improve herself. I mean wouldn't you want to be the best wrestler you can be? If you already have the look, you don't have to worry about that, but she probably wants to take it to the next level. She doesn't just wanna have money, she wants to be remembered for having the best matches she can.

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Re: The Gaijin Thread
« Reply #121 on: May 16, 2008, 06:57:58 PM »
it's like in the case of melissa and SDR. despite the good hype they've been getting at the US, since they are serious in honing their craft, they went to japan to learn more.

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Re: The Gaijin Thread
« Reply #122 on: May 16, 2008, 07:01:44 PM »
Yeah, plus it's also just about wrestling in Japan. Just getting the chance to wrestle those women alone could heighten your own skill.

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Re: The Gaijin Thread
« Reply #123 on: May 16, 2008, 08:21:37 PM »
Yes, the jobbing really helps your skill level.

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Re: The Gaijin Thread
« Reply #124 on: May 17, 2008, 07:25:08 AM »
Yes, the jobbing really helps your skill level.

being a jobber doesn't always mean you're getting buried