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Joshi Puroresu => Wrestler Love => Topic started by: Sabrina the Teenage Cracker on December 03, 2007, 07:27:54 AM

Title: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: Sabrina the Teenage Cracker on December 03, 2007, 07:27:54 AM
Talk about your favorite Gaijen. Talk about who you'd like to see come to japan for training, and why, or just come to japan and wrestle. Basically show some love for your favorite gaijen(I.E. Monster Ripper, Amazing Kong, Cheerleader Melissa, Taylor Matheny, Bionic J, Wesna, Panther Claw....ok well maybe not her but you get the picture)

I'm getting some great joshi from shareaza, and when I get back from school I'll upload Bionic J vs Cheerleader Melissa, and some other Arsion goodness.
Title: Re: The Gaijen Thread
Post by: Coffee on December 03, 2007, 08:10:46 AM
ironically, my fave gaijin isnt female
they are the motor city machine guns
Title: Re: The Gaijen Thread
Post by: Global Honored on December 03, 2007, 08:22:35 AM
Mine is Rebecca Knox. Hope she can come back to Japan in full health soon. I would buy her a pint for sure.
Title: Re: The Gaijen Thread
Post by: ohtanisjacket on December 03, 2007, 08:26:37 AM
I reckon the best gaijin was Leilani Kai, but Debbie Malenko had the best run.
Title: Re: The Gaijen Thread
Post by: Coffee on December 03, 2007, 08:30:43 AM
no doubt debbie malenko has the best run there
similar to the successful tour of amazing kong
(she could also be a fave among the gaijins)
Title: Re: The Gaijen Thread
Post by: ohtanisjacket on December 03, 2007, 08:39:22 AM
Rhonda Singh (Monster Ripper) had a good run too. Probably some girls from the early-to-mid 70s too.
Title: Re: The Gaijen Thread
Post by: conchinette on December 03, 2007, 09:08:31 AM
ironically, my fave gaijin isnt female
they are the motor city machine guns

@Lx Shelley for years now. First time I saw him I said to myself "they can't bury this guy's talent and personality even with this Baby Bear gimmick."  *hee

I'd love former WWE Divas, Nora Greenwald and Lisa Moretti to continue their road trips there, especially for Lisa as she was one of America's wrestling icons in the 80's because of GLOW. She's currently doing the indy scene, a new experience for her, and she's been loving it. I watched her match against Cheerleader Melissa.
Title: Re: The Gaijen Thread
Post by: conchinette on December 03, 2007, 09:11:46 AM

I'm getting some great joshi from shareaza, and when I get back from school I'll upload Bionic J vs Cheerleader Melissa, and some other Arsion goodness.

I also use shareaza; how are you getting these matches, from torrents or just searches?
Title: Re: The Gaijen Thread
Post by: Sabrina the Teenage Cracker on December 03, 2007, 02:40:37 PM

I'm getting some great joshi from shareaza, and when I get back from school I'll upload Bionic J vs Cheerleader Melissa, and some other Arsion goodness.

I also use shareaza; how are you getting these matches, from torrents or just searches?

Searches, I'm about to get Melissa vs Yoshida.

I also have to say I'd love to see victoria as a gaijen. She can hit hard, and is very aggressive. She's also very technically sound, so her against Yoshida or Ayako would be dream matches. I'd also like to see daizee haze train under Yoshida, to take her to the next level. Yoshida would straighten out daizee's tendency to hurry a move, or just plain botch it. I'd also love to see Meiko teach her  how to do a proper dropkick.

Does anyone have any of mschif's matches from japan?
Title: Re: The Gaijen Thread
Post by: Coffee on December 03, 2007, 10:10:58 PM
the only match is saw of mischif is her against kyoko kimura which lasted for 4minutes
TFCHooligan69 posted that on youtube
Title: Re: The Gaijen Thread
Post by: Sabrina the Teenage Cracker on December 03, 2007, 10:20:18 PM
the only match is saw of mischif is her against kyoko kimura which lasted for 4minutes
TFCHooligan69 posted that on youtube

For that I give you an exaltation. Thank you.
Title: Re: The Gaijen Thread
Post by: Mizztrezz on December 03, 2007, 10:29:27 PM
Reggie Bennett shouldn't be forgotten, she had a pretty good run in AJW, but an even better one in ARSION..
Title: Re: The Gaijen Thread
Post by: Sabrina the Teenage Cracker on December 03, 2007, 10:33:54 PM
......Madusa....*runs from Double Kong Urakens*
But seriously, who do you think gave Kong all that help in her cage match against nakano? That right, that wasn't a small asian man, that was madusa. She also had a street fight against kong, which may or may not have been good. Still she did allegedly only drop the WWF Women's title because she didn't want to lose it to kong.
Title: Re: The Gaijen Thread
Post by: Coffee on December 03, 2007, 10:43:57 PM
you're welcome, ElfenLied
but that match is just too short
Title: Re: The Gaijen Thread
Post by: Sabrina the Teenage Cracker on December 03, 2007, 10:47:06 PM
Yeah, I was po'd at the clipping, but getting to see mschif dragged by a chain and seeing Kimura desecrated and Gateway to Annihilation....ded is well worth an exaltation. Did mschif get any training while in japan?
Title: Re: The Gaijen Thread
Post by: Coffee on December 03, 2007, 11:06:16 PM
not so sure about that but i have yet to confirm if she was also trained by bryan danielson
Title: Re: The Gaijen Thread
Post by: UnstableProtagonist on December 10, 2007, 12:46:54 PM
I never caught wind of the rumor about Danielson training MsChif, let alone knew wheter it was confirmed. However, Danielson had trained Sara Del Ray in the past, and is it true that Melissa had a bit of training from AmDrag as well? Correct me if I'm wrong...
Title: Re: The Gaijen Thread
Post by: luckycleareyes on December 10, 2007, 12:58:15 PM
SportsNavi is reporting that Daizee Haze will be on the BIG VAN CRUSH card on 1/5.

"The first visit to Japan of United States leading outstanding wrestler Daisy Hayes was determined..."

It's going to be Arisa & Io vs. Yuu Yamagata & Daisy Haize.

The article puts Daizee over pretty huge, saying she's a NWA and IWA-MS champ, plus works with ROH.

Also Fuuka will take on Mio in a singles match.

Hideki Hosaka has also been added to the show.
Title: Re: The Gaijen Thread
Post by: Sabrina the Teenage Cracker on December 10, 2007, 02:58:27 PM
Yeah I was about to post that lol. I hope she wrestles more than just that match. I'd also love her to go to the Ibuki Dojo, so mariko could smooth out daizee's sloppiness. I mean if she can turn cherry from that horrible timid mess of a wrestler to one of my favorites of the new gen. imagine what she could do with daizee. Daizee has the tools, she just needs to stop hurrying....too bad meiko's injured....daizee really needs no non-sense dropkick training. But yeah case in point would be chickfight 6. The start of her time limit draw with melissa was amazing, but as the time started to run down she was botching every other move, fell down on her wheelbarrow, oh it was a mess. But if she could sustain the level she has at the beginning I'd definitely see her as a credible shimmer champion.
Title: Re: The Gaijen Thread
Post by: glowlad on December 10, 2007, 03:43:17 PM
@Lx Shelley for years now. First time I saw him I said to myself "they can't bury this guy's talent and personality even with this Baby Bear gimmick."  *hee

I'd love former WWE Divas, Nora Greenwald and Lisa Moretti to continue their road trips there, especially for Lisa as she was one of America's wrestling icons in the 80's because of GLOW. She's currently doing the indy scene, a new experience for her, and she's been loving it. I watched her match against Cheerleader Melissa.

Oooo, kudos for mentioning GLOW! Good old Tina Ferrari...Spanish Red...Attache... *whee
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: Ozmont on December 10, 2007, 03:45:14 PM
It's a good thing Daizee is working with Yuu, not against.
Title: Re: The Gaijen Thread
Post by: Sabrina the Teenage Cracker on December 10, 2007, 03:48:15 PM
@Lx Shelley for years now. First time I saw him I said to myself "they can't bury this guy's talent and personality even with this Baby Bear gimmick."  *hee

I'd love former WWE Divas, Nora Greenwald and Lisa Moretti to continue their road trips there, especially for Lisa as she was one of America's wrestling icons in the 80's because of GLOW. She's currently doing the indy scene, a new experience for her, and she's been loving it. I watched her match against Cheerleader Melissa.

Oooo, kudos for mentioning GLOW! Good old Tina Ferrari...Spanish Red...Attache... *whee

They were talking about that on the shimmer boards, how the shimmer title tournament should have a special roosters editions.
Title: Re: The Gaijen Thread
Post by: luckycleareyes on December 10, 2007, 03:50:24 PM
Yeah I was about to post that lol. I hope she wrestles more than just that match. I'd also love her to go to the Ibuki Dojo, so mariko could smooth out daizee's sloppiness. I mean if she can turn cherry from that horrible timid mess of a wrestler to one of my favorites of the new gen. imagine what she could do with daizee. Daizee has the tools, she just needs to stop hurrying....too bad meiko's injured....daizee really needs no non-sense dropkick training. But yeah case in point would be chickfight 6. The start of her time limit draw with melissa was amazing, but as the time started to run down she was botching every other move, fell down on her wheelbarrow, oh it was a mess. But if she could sustain the level she has at the beginning I'd definitely see her as a credible shimmer champion.

Hmm... that sounds like a conditioning problem. Like she got to tired to perform physically.

"Blown up" etc.

Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: Coffee on December 10, 2007, 03:52:06 PM
if yoshida was able to work out miracles for kyoko kimura and cherry, expect the same thing to be done for daizee haze if ever it happens

lacey vs yoshida would also be great
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: Sabrina the Teenage Cracker on December 10, 2007, 03:57:59 PM
Yeah, but she even botches in 20 minute matches. She's just gets a little to jazzed up, and ends up hurrying moves and therefore becoming sloppy
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: Coffee on December 10, 2007, 04:01:54 PM
anyway, the other gaijin that i enjoy watching lately is monster ripper (courtesy of the page of MXNT41 of youtube)
that channel uploads matches from AJW circa 1979 to 1980 and i saw clips of jackie sato vs monster ripper
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: Sabrina the Teenage Cracker on December 15, 2007, 02:23:18 PM
I say we make a petition for Lacey to go to Japan.
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: Ozmont on December 15, 2007, 04:58:25 PM
Id LOOOVE to see Lacey spit water on a japanese fan and talk shit straight in Arisa's face even if she wont understand a single word *haha

Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: Sabrina the Teenage Cracker on December 15, 2007, 07:27:13 PM
Yeah, or her being like "Oh, stop taking my picture your gross japanese perverts. This little skank might just let you see her panties, but you disgusting ugly idiots are never going to get mine"

I would laugh if she accidently spat on Aja kong and then she chased her out of the building *haha
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: Coffee on December 16, 2007, 01:18:43 AM
Yeah, or her being like "Oh, stop taking my picture your gross japanese perverts. This little skank might just let you see her panties, but you disgusting ugly idiots are never going to get mine"

I would laugh if she accidently spat on Aja kong and then she chased her out of the building *haha

i would love to see that too
aja is a bitch, but lacey is worth
expect a squash match in less than 5minutes
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: Sabrina the Teenage Cracker on December 18, 2007, 11:53:36 PM
It's official...daizee haze wishes she was toyota.....she's added a german suplex, and northernlights suplex to her move set......not to mention this little vid of her I found on youtube
http://youtube.com/watch?v=uvOCHuRHw1Q
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: Coffee on December 19, 2007, 12:58:37 AM
not only haze, even gail kim wanted to

everyone wanted to be as great as toyota, but it has a tendency to overdo it in a sense that they become mere impersonations of the original
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: conchinette on December 19, 2007, 02:53:36 AM
I doubt anyone will ever be able to imitate Toyota. Sure they can copy her moveset but they will never be able to do a Toyota style match. The North American scene just isn't used to that rapid amount of workrate.
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: General HENkada on December 19, 2007, 08:14:41 AM
It's official...daizee haze wishes she was toyota.....she's added a german suplex, and northernlights suplex to her move set......not to mention this little vid of her I found on youtube
Because Toyota was the first person to ever use those moves? Those moves are fairly common among a lot of pro wrestlers. I don't remember Toyota ever using a weed-smoking, flower-power gimmick.
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: Sabrina the Teenage Cracker on December 19, 2007, 09:44:16 AM
....nyahaha(had image of hippy toyota)

I think Sarah Stock could definitely compare to toyota as far as workrate goes.
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: General HENkada on December 19, 2007, 12:27:25 PM
Nah, Sarah Stock uses well-paced lucha (with some strong style, depending on with whom she is working). Toyota was/is about suplexes and high flying. Workrate is such a meaningless, subjective term. There is nothing quantitative about it.
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: Ozmont on December 19, 2007, 01:53:06 PM
OMG Fuuka is using shoot-style submissions!!!1~~! Shes da next Shinobu Kandori!! *creeeeaamz*
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: Sabrina the Teenage Cracker on December 19, 2007, 01:53:48 PM
Well by workrate I generally mean how quick they are, and how fast they can go between move to move.

OMG Fuuka is using shoot-style submissions!!!1~~! Shes da next Shinobu Kandori!! *creeeeaamz*

So she's gonna be the next strongest man in joshi Puroresu *bwah
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: Ozmont on December 19, 2007, 01:58:40 PM
If Fuuka shaved her head and lost MORE weight, she could very well be the strongest boy in joshi puroresu.

I still cant get over that she wants to lose MORE weight as shes in A++ shape aleady. Dumb bitch (http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w183/AkiraUno/laugh.gif)
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: Sabrina the Teenage Cracker on December 19, 2007, 02:00:05 PM
Yeah...hey she and shantelle taylor could create a tag team called "The Purgers" *bwah
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: luckycleareyes on December 19, 2007, 02:22:37 PM

I still cant get over that she wants to lose MORE weight as shes in A++ shape aleady. Dumb bitch (http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w183/AkiraUno/laugh.gif)

It might relate to weight class in combative sports, and not that she thinks she's fat.
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: Coffee on December 19, 2007, 05:18:03 PM
OMG Fuuka is using shoot-style submissions!!!1~~! Shes da next Shinobu Kandori!! *creeeeaamz*

what do you mean by shoot style submission?
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: luckycleareyes on December 19, 2007, 06:11:03 PM
"shoot style" usually refers to pro wrestling using what are real MMA moves.

There have been promotions in Japan whose whole theme has been that.

Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: Coffee on December 19, 2007, 07:34:21 PM
thanks for clarifying that, lucky

i suddenly remembered when ken shamrock and the rest of the UFC cagers arrived here in manila
too bad i missed the event live
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: Ozmont on December 19, 2007, 07:42:50 PM

There have been promotions in Japan whose whole theme has been that.


I know Kiyoshi Tamura is a big player in those kind of promotions. And Akira Maeda (who Hokuto named herself after, becaue he was her favourite)
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: Coffee on December 19, 2007, 08:13:04 PM
....nyahaha(had image of hippy toyota)

I think Sarah Stock could definitely compare to toyota as far as workrate goes.

i don't think the hippy image would fit toyota
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: General HENkada on December 21, 2007, 09:56:24 AM
There have been promotions in Japan whose whole theme has been that.
CBS Sportsline had an interesting series of articles on the "overlooked" origins of MMA. http://www.sportsline.com/mmaboxing/story/10443463
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: Sabrina the Teenage Cracker on December 21, 2007, 01:22:44 PM
Amazing Kong got to grab Brian Kendrick's butt, and make out with Sonjay Dutt......I never thought I'd say this....but why can't I be her *livid *livid *livid
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: 孤星 on December 21, 2007, 02:35:52 PM
Amazing Kong got to grab Brian Kendrick's butt


ooooohhhh. ..Spanky. . . *Oni*
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: Sabrina the Teenage Cracker on December 21, 2007, 05:16:23 PM
Amazing Kong got to grab Brian Kendrick's butt


ooooohhhh. ..Spanky. . . *Oni*

You want me to PM you a pic of his tight riding extremely high?
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: 孤星 on December 22, 2007, 01:25:49 AM
Amazing Kong got to grab Brian Kendrick's butt


ooooohhhh. ..Spanky. . . *Oni*

You want me to PM you a pic of his tight riding extremely high?

Is it the one where he's in the pink tights that are really tiny? If so, send it to me anyway.   *bwah
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: Coffee on December 23, 2007, 02:27:06 AM
Amazing Kong got to grab Brian Kendrick's butt


ooooohhhh. ..Spanky. . . *Oni*

You want me to PM you a pic of his tight riding extremely high?

send me one too
it would be a great source of laughs
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: Sabrina the Teenage Cracker on December 27, 2007, 07:04:22 PM
I love lacey's new hair
(http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa28/shimmerwrestling/049.jpg)
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: UnstableProtagonist on December 27, 2007, 07:19:43 PM
 *gah

The hair has goth written on it! She still maintains that edge and attitude I've always enjoyed from her. If the opportunity presents itself, Lacey would be a terrific heel in the Joshi realm (although it's in my little imagination).
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: Sabrina the Teenage Cracker on December 27, 2007, 07:35:27 PM
Hmmm......my current dream matches involving lacey are Ozaki/Kimura vs MNHWC, MNHWC vs D-Fix, and MNHWC vs LCO.
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: Ozmont on December 27, 2007, 08:06:15 PM
Lacey & Rain vs Uematsu & RanYuYu (1/4 comedy, 3/4 brawl)

Lacey & Rain vs Youth Green - Just to see Lacey get hit with Aoi's Lariat of broken collarbones

L&R vs Kauro Ito & Ayako

Would kill to see those. You think Rain would be able to go to Japan? TNA's X-Division guys have been in Z-1
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: Sabrina the Teenage Cracker on December 27, 2007, 08:16:56 PM
Well.....rain alone I wouldn't so much like to see in japan. She's a good wrestler, but she makes Dump Matsumoto look like a Cheetah.
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: Coffee on December 27, 2007, 08:47:37 PM
shimoda vs lacey would be one of the bitchiest dream bouts for sure

although if lacey's going against toyota and toyota says, "give up!'"
lacey would say, "my ass, bitch!"
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: UnstableProtagonist on December 27, 2007, 09:02:52 PM
Here's a dream match for you:

Lacey vs. Azumi Hyuga

Quote
although if lacey's going against toyota and toyota says, "give up!'"
lacey would say, "my ass, bitch!"

 *whee

Honestly, kapen-chan, I believe that same sentiments applies to Hyuga if Lacey were to have a match against her. The difference is that Hyuga can't make Lacey submit, she would clearly serve up a Running Knee Strike straight into Lacey's jaw, just to keep her big mouth shut for a minute or two. Wait, what am I saying? Let me re-elaborate; if Hyuga did nail Lacey with her patented knee strikes, Lacey would role out of the ring scraming, "That hurt like a b****!"

 *haha
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: Coffee on December 27, 2007, 09:55:05 PM
can't we just book her against aja kong instead to totally shut her up?
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: Sabrina the Teenage Cracker on December 27, 2007, 09:56:54 PM
Actually Lacey would end the match after the camera made it look like she was choking hyuga out and start saying "Oww, that really hurt, but I won. Eww don't touch me you children's panties loving perverts" and spit in their face with water
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: Coffee on December 27, 2007, 09:59:07 PM
 *fu "and don't you even dare take a picture of me!!! - lacey
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: Hooligan69 on December 27, 2007, 10:00:17 PM
Here's a dream match for you:

Lacey vs. Azumi Hyuga

Lacey vs. Yoshiko Tamura

Lacey won't shut up so Tamura drills her with elbow strikes for real, but Lacey still won't shut up.  *haha
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: UnstableProtagonist on December 27, 2007, 10:05:53 PM
If Hyuga or Tamura can't shut Lacey up, who can?

Perhaps the OZ could have her fellow D-FIX member to aid her as she runs a hardcore clinic upon Lacey with chain in hand, but that still won't shut her up!
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: Sabrina the Teenage Cracker on December 27, 2007, 10:08:53 PM
Who would want lacey to shut up?.....in any case if they managed to somehow beat her, it's because they cheated...or they're sluts and slept with the ref so he'd let them win
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: Coffee on December 27, 2007, 10:15:45 PM
it's not that we want her to shut up
we're just curious at who could manage to shut her up
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: Sabrina the Teenage Cracker on December 27, 2007, 10:17:59 PM
No one.....not unless shark tsuchiya took her kusarigama and cut her tongue out
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: UnstableProtagonist on December 27, 2007, 10:20:16 PM
Truthfully, that is what I love about Lacey. She plays the classic American heel role extremely well and demonstrates a ton of charisma - something you cannot teach at a wrestling academy - that challenges even that of Tamura. It doesn't hurt that she is a master of in-ring psychology and intangibles, either. If I were to sit in the front role of a wrestling show and Lacey approaches my direction, I know what the outcome is going to be. I may receive a projectile of water directly from her mouth, but because I love the woman as a wrestler, I don't necessarily mind.

I wasn't trying to go overboard with my comments, by the way.
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: Coffee on December 27, 2007, 11:19:07 PM
well the good thing about lacey is that she doesn't have to be slutty in order to be an effective heel
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: UnstableProtagonist on December 27, 2007, 11:20:09 PM
 *approve

ZING!
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: Coffee on December 27, 2007, 11:22:29 PM
No one.....not unless shark tsuchiya took her kusarigama and cut her tongue out

have you forgotten how many BAD matches that shark has produced?

aja kong vs shark is aja's worst
shinobu kandori vs shark is kandori's worst
who said that one again in the past?
what do you find common in them?
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: Sabrina the Teenage Cracker on January 03, 2008, 04:39:54 PM
Ok, I know we've been hating on the Haze a lot, but I gotta admit, she's improved immensely over the past year alone. The shimmer title tournament is big proof of that. She's put in some new lucha moves, and added a double back stomp senton combo to her repertoire
(http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q93/TheElfenLiedPictureShow/387248484_l.jpg)
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: Coffee on January 03, 2008, 05:15:49 PM
do you mean the no hands plancha?
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: UnstableProtagonist on January 03, 2008, 05:39:08 PM
Ok, I know we've been hating on the Haze a lot, but I gotta admit, she's improved immensely over the past year alone. The shimmer title tournament is big proof of that. She's put in some new lucha moves, and added a double back stomp senton combo to her repertoire
(http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q93/TheElfenLiedPictureShow/387248484_l.jpg)

Despite being petite in stature, Daizee Haze is an exceptional worker. I love how scrappy she can be in the ring.
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: Sabrina the Teenage Cracker on January 03, 2008, 05:42:16 PM
Yeah, it took her awhile, but she's finally learned how to play a small woman in the ring. If you see her past matches with melissa she fought like she was the same size as melissa, but she's learned now how to play as the smaller of two opponents. Plus her technical skills are really amazing, and she doesn't rush moves as much now.
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: General HENkada on January 03, 2008, 05:48:43 PM
Ok, I know we've been hating on the Haze a lot...
No, you've been hating on the Haze a lot.
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: Sabrina the Teenage Cracker on January 03, 2008, 05:52:27 PM
Ok, I know we've been hating on the Haze a lot...
No, you've been hating on the Haze a lot.


Hey, they've been joining in :p
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: 孤星 on January 03, 2008, 05:55:16 PM
Ok, I know we've been hating on the Haze a lot...
No, you've been hating on the Haze a lot.

Like on every wrestling board you come across, lol.
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: 孤星 on January 03, 2008, 05:57:23 PM
Ok, I know we've been hating on the Haze a lot, but I gotta admit, she's improved immensely over the past year alone. The shimmer title tournament is big proof of that. She's put in some new lucha moves, and added a double back stomp senton combo to her repertoire
(http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q93/TheElfenLiedPictureShow/387248484_l.jpg)

Despite being pateet in stature, Daizee Haze is an exceptional worker. I love how scrappy she can be in the ring.

I don't know if you've noticed this but most all petite wrestlers are excellent workers.  *crazy

 I liked her guts going into it as if she were 10 ft. tall.  *wail
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: Coffee on January 03, 2008, 06:06:16 PM
not that i am into the haze hatewagon but when i watched her against mickie knuckes and she executed the rolling cradle, it's the sloppiest i've seen so far
nothing much against haze but i can't help but comment on that

anyway, i just uploaded wesna busic vs ayako hamada on youtube
and my only complaint in that match is that it's too short
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: Sabrina the Teenage Cracker on January 03, 2008, 06:07:53 PM
Yeah they clipped it to death. Wesna's face goes from normal to bloody with possible teeth knocked out through one clippage. It pissed me off because the match looked like it might have been amazing
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: Coffee on January 03, 2008, 06:57:34 PM
so if a dvd has so many matches, chances are the matches are short
 *give
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: conchinette on January 05, 2008, 09:24:52 PM
Sunny + Daizee vs. Lacey in a post-match angle was recently done in ROH before the new year.
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: Coffee on January 06, 2008, 12:07:10 AM
i wonder if SUN is the only fed where busic wrestled
her stuff online looked interesting
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: Sabrina the Teenage Cracker on January 06, 2008, 11:40:25 AM
I so want to see that promo she did where she ripped sunny a new one
(http://a583.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/100/l_57b7749baeae198df24c94a70c2abd5e.jpg)
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: Coffee on January 06, 2008, 01:51:51 PM
 *fu
"listen up, bitch, i managed wrestlers stiffer than you. and you had the gall to say that? if you're a bitch, then i'm bitchier!"
 (sunny should have snorted back)
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: General HENkada on January 06, 2008, 04:44:06 PM
i wonder if SUN is the only fed where busic wrestled
EWA, ChickFight (not SUN), and RQW that I can think of.
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: Coffee on January 06, 2008, 05:27:51 PM
hopefully before the end of the month, i'd be able to watch some Chickfight DVD's in order to watch Wesna Busic
her wrestling resume is somewhat impressive
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: Sabrina the Teenage Cracker on March 28, 2008, 05:45:01 AM
I hope someone posts that match daizee had in japan soon.
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: Coffee on March 28, 2008, 10:51:06 AM
I hope someone posts that match daizee had in japan soon.

against whom?
i wonder how stiff they got themselves in order to agitate her
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: Coffee on May 14, 2008, 01:00:12 PM
i totally forgot about the HBK being a guest referee in the FMW match between H & gannosuke, long hair and crotch chops included
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: Ozmont on May 14, 2008, 01:13:59 PM
I hope someone posts that match daizee had in japan soon.

against whom?
i wonder how stiff they got themselves in order to agitate her

Daizy & Yuu Yamagata vs Io Shirai & Arisa Nakajima. Apparently she didnt even stay more then 24 hours there
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: Coffee on May 14, 2008, 01:24:28 PM
you mean her stint is shorter than becky knox's stay in tokyo?

i wonder how long did hailey hatred stay on the other hand at JWP
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: luckycleareyes on May 14, 2008, 04:09:06 PM
you mean her stint is shorter than becky knox's stay in tokyo?

i wonder how long did hailey hatred stay on the other hand at JWP

Yeah, it was for MAKEHEN so no chance for TV and small chance for DVD.

Hatred was also there for MAKEHEN I believe. I think JWP just used her for a show.

I will never understand why Japanese companies fly people over for a day for their show and fly them back the next day. You'll see it in the US with the Japanese guys sometimes too. The promoter's argument is the "exclusivity" of the person gives the individual chance of a bigger draw.

The way I look at it, if you're thinking about that then it's a money game. So as long as the show follows yours and you were the person who made the deal just charge a fee to the other promotions that want to use "your" fly-in.
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: Coffee on May 14, 2008, 04:11:37 PM
if it's really expensive for puro feds to invite the gaijins in, i don't want to imagine how much did FMW pay HBK to be a special guest referee then
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: bill.zero on May 14, 2008, 05:19:00 PM
if it's really expensive for puro feds to invite the gaijins in, i don't want to imagine how much did FMW pay HBK to be a special guest referee then

They paid him by using his super green students on their PPVs. HBK was over there to promote his TWA trainees in an attempt to get them exposure. Lance Cade appeared on a few shows and I believe American Dragon appeared on a PPV as well.
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: Coffee on May 14, 2008, 05:24:37 PM
oh ... now i know
although it seemed to me that dragon benefited a lot more from the exposure than storm
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: 孤星 on May 14, 2008, 06:02:26 PM
oh ... now i know
although it seemed to me that dragon benefited a lot more from the exposure than storm

Lance Cade of Cade and Murdoc, not Lance Storm.

I don't know. ..it seemed like good ol' HBK was a great teacher in that way. He got them gigs in Japan and WWE? Who does that?
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: Coffee on May 15, 2008, 12:51:09 PM
oops, my bad. i thought it's storm

it sucks to see HBK's students buried on RAW by his own best friend HHH
remember when cade & murdoch were ganging up on HHH and then lonDrick ran to the rescue
instead of accepting the help of lonDrick, HHH beat them up instead

(yes i watched that episode too)
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: 孤星 on May 15, 2008, 07:05:37 PM
HHH is a heel, tho. Even if he's a face he will always be a heel; that's just his character. London and Kendrick are crowd popping babyfaces with Steamboat syndrome (allegedly) so it makes sense that he would do that to them (or anyone else) I don't see any burying happening, I only see confusion over what to do with which team first.
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: Coffee on May 15, 2008, 07:10:58 PM
steamboat syndrome? is that a good thing or a bad thing?
 *saywhat
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: 孤星 on May 15, 2008, 07:25:49 PM
It means there's some difficulty going heel credibly because of being face for so long. I've seen Kendrick do it but I don't think I've seen successful heeling from London. I do remember when he cut that promo after he lost the CW title. He was on both Velocity and Smackdown that week; that was like in 2004.
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: Coffee on May 15, 2008, 07:29:07 PM
oh okay, i don't watch steamboat matches as much as i wanted to

i already posted the gaijin announcement at youtube and i'm checking who among the current wrestlers today would be interested in taking yoshida's offer to learn submission wrestling

*keeps my fingers crossed that lacey enrolls herself to the IBUKI school*
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: J.H. - Firmly Re-Dedicated to Yoneyama! on May 15, 2008, 09:24:20 PM
my lord the thought of Rebecca Knox learning from Mariko Yoshida makes my head spin!

James
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: Coffee on May 15, 2008, 09:39:43 PM
my lord the thought of Rebecca Knox learning from Mariko Yoshida makes my head spin!

James

i have a feeling that TNA saw my vid and might send some of the girls to tokyo for that reason

mio & io vs the beautiful people?
book it!
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: Sabrina the Teenage Cracker on May 15, 2008, 09:50:51 PM
Why would they view some random vid about a promotion they probably don't even know about?
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: Coffee on May 16, 2008, 12:51:45 AM
it's common knowledge that women serious with wrestling go to Japan for further training right?
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: conchinette on May 16, 2008, 01:42:36 AM
It means there's some difficulty going heel credibly because of being face for so long. I've seen Kendrick do it but I don't think I've seen successful heeling from London. I do remember when he cut that promo after he lost the CW title. He was on both Velocity and Smackdown that week; that was like in 2004.

Brian Kendrick cut a heelish promo on the recent Heat taping after they beat Cade and Murdoch saying that Heat was too small for them and that they were going after the tag team titles.
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: General HENkada on May 16, 2008, 07:13:21 AM
it's common knowledge that women serious with wrestling go to Japan for further training right?
Usually not at the expense of a TV promotion... not to mention the risk of injury and whatnot. If they wanted to go to Japan and "further their training," they would have done it when the opportunity presented itself. Take Gail Kim, for example. She had some down time between her WWE and TNA runs... and she spent it posing topless. Go figure.
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: Sabrina the Teenage Cracker on May 16, 2008, 10:30:16 AM
Why must we always berate gail kim? Were you not impressed by her match with kong yesterday?

it's common knowledge that women serious with wrestling go to Japan for further training right?

Not all, and in any case I meant I don't think anyone at TNA's even going to know about this offer, or look at any of your videos.
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: General HENkada on May 16, 2008, 10:57:35 AM
Why must we always berate gail kim?
Not berating her... just stating a simple fact.
Were you not impressed by her match with kong yesterday?
Nope. Kong continues to impress. Gail, not so much.
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: Sabrina the Teenage Cracker on May 16, 2008, 11:00:24 AM
I've been impressed. Plus she's shown lots of passion with the bumps she's taken. I mean a ladder match and a match with kong all in less than 24 hours is not an easy feat.
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: Coffee on May 16, 2008, 12:45:40 PM
Usually not at the expense of a TV promotion... not to mention the risk of injury and whatnot. If they wanted to go to Japan and "further their training," they would have done it when the opportunity presented itself. Take Gail Kim, for example. She had some down time between her WWE and TNA runs... and she spent it posing topless. Go figure.

 *bwah
i didn't think you would have a problem with her posing topless
but i think the TNA crowd is now noticing that roxxi is better than gail hence the monster face pops for roxxi

i'd like to see more of mschif in japan after i watched her match in Hooligan's youtube account
but it seems to me that she's pretty protective of her gimmick
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: 孤星 on May 16, 2008, 04:29:24 PM
It means there's some difficulty going heel credibly because of being face for so long. I've seen Kendrick do it but I don't think I've seen successful heeling from London. I do remember when he cut that promo after he lost the CW title. He was on both Velocity and Smackdown that week; that was like in 2004.

Brian Kendrick cut a heelish promo on the recent Heat taping after they beat Cade and Murdoch saying that Heat was too small for them and that they were going after the tag team titles.

Yeah, I heard about that! *haha
Kendrick is a natural heel and the transition will be fine for him.

it's common knowledge that women serious with wrestling go to Japan for further training right?
Usually not at the expense of a TV promotion... not to mention the risk of injury and whatnot. If they wanted to go to Japan and "further their training," they would have done it when the opportunity presented itself. Take Gail Kim, for example. She had some down time between her WWE and TNA runs... and she spent it posing topless. Go figure.

That's because who would spend money to go to Japan and risk injury when they can generate easy income?

Not to be mean you guys but I don't think anyone you sent those vids too is actually going to go to Japan. Most women wrestlers DON'T need to go to Japan. Things run differently in North America and it's just unnecessary. Plus, Japan isn't the end-all-be-all for women's' wrestling; there are some places in the states to go and "better" themselves. It really doesn't work the same way in women's' wrestling as it does in mens' wrestling. Realistically a woman does not need the technical prowess of an Alex Shelley to get booked; all she needs is some sex appeal. For this reason, for the right kinds of women, wrestling is easier to "give notice" in than it is for men. Example: a lot of women who are in the WWE or TNA make it in half the time most men do. Supply and demand; and high turnover rate- plus there's just fewer women in the business anyway. Going to Japan to learn submission wrestling isn't worth it or necessary for most N.A women wrestlers.

Example: Gail Kim knows she doesn't need to learn submission wrestling to maintain her popularity; she just needs to keep her good side out there; hence the posing topless.
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: Sabrina the Teenage Cracker on May 16, 2008, 04:33:23 PM
I think some will. It's not all about getting on TNA or WWE. Some people just wanna wrestle. I think Ibuki's paying to fly in the girls anyway. I think you're just being really pessimistic about it. And as I said, Mariko Yoshida's a former highflier, so if that's your thing, she can teach it. I mean Chigusa trained Toshie and Chikayo and she's the furthest thing from a highflier.
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: 孤星 on May 16, 2008, 04:40:18 PM
I think some will. It's not all about getting on TNA or WWE. Some people just wanna wrestle. I think Ibuki's paying to fly in the girls anyway. I think you're just being really pessimistic about it. And as I said, Mariko Yoshida's a former highflier, so if that's your thing, she can teach it. I mean Chigusa trained Toshie and Chikayo and she's the furthest thing from a highflier.



Okay if you want to believe that, go ahead. But from a business standpoint it makes no sense especially when some women already have it made in the shade. It's not pessimisim, it's realism because most of these women have lives outside of wrestling, it really isn't needed because this is not Japan- no matter how much you want it to become more like Japan. Hailey Hatred wanted to go to Japan for 4 years but her mother died and she had other family issues plus she just didn't have the money. We'll see but it probably won't be anyone who's already established.

I'd go in a heartbeat, I just don't see why women with patented schticks would go. HEN brought up the Gail Kim thing for a very good reason; if they wanted to go they already would have or at least made the effort.
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: Coffee on May 16, 2008, 04:41:55 PM
well not everyone anyway wanted to be in either TNA or WWE anyway (no matter how obvious that when it comes to wrestling, they're still the mainstream choice). i remember melissa stripes mentioning in her myspace profile if i'm not mistaken that she preferred going to japan than getting booked at either companies. i wonder if she already knew about the IBUKI openings
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: 孤星 on May 16, 2008, 04:45:39 PM
send it to her. She's got a lot of potential smd it would be awesome for her. I'm all for more women going to Japan but so far, that's not how things work especially with the bigger names.
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: Sabrina the Teenage Cracker on May 16, 2008, 04:55:11 PM
Dynamite Girl Jennifer Blake replied saying
"O sweet!!!!! Thanks a lot!
-Jen"

And didn't Haily go?
(http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h81/HaileyHatred/3%20Japan%20Tour/IMG_0419.jpg)
(http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h81/HaileyHatred/3%20Japan%20Tour/IMG_0418.jpg)
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: 孤星 on May 16, 2008, 04:59:35 PM
Yeah but before she went all these things happened in her life; that's point I was trying to make- she wanted to go forever and a day (4 years) but couldn't; people's lives don't always intersect perfectly.

I took awhile.

And I see no reason for Jennifer Blake to go when she's already got so much hype this early on in her career with her hardcore style and her look; with that look where do you think she's wanting to go?
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: Sabrina the Teenage Cracker on May 16, 2008, 05:08:48 PM
To improve herself. I mean wouldn't you want to be the best wrestler you can be? If you already have the look, you don't have to worry about that, but she probably wants to take it to the next level. She doesn't just wanna have money, she wants to be remembered for having the best matches she can.
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: Coffee on May 16, 2008, 06:57:58 PM
it's like in the case of melissa and SDR. despite the good hype they've been getting at the US, since they are serious in honing their craft, they went to japan to learn more.
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: Sabrina the Teenage Cracker on May 16, 2008, 07:01:44 PM
Yeah, plus it's also just about wrestling in Japan. Just getting the chance to wrestle those women alone could heighten your own skill.
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: 孤星 on May 16, 2008, 08:21:37 PM
Yes, the jobbing really helps your skill level.
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: Coffee on May 17, 2008, 07:25:08 AM
Yes, the jobbing really helps your skill level.

being a jobber doesn't always mean you're getting buried
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: General HENkada on May 17, 2008, 07:22:56 PM
i didn't think you would have a problem with her posing topless
None at all. I enjoyed the photos. She's got a nice rack.
...if they wanted to go they already would have or at least made the effort.
Well stated.

And on the Melissa Stripes example, even if she does want to go, like Vamp said, who here is going to pick up the bill for her? "Go to Japan! Go to Japan! Oh... you need money? Ummm... you're on your own. I'm just a fan who thinks all of you should go to Japan."
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: Coffee on May 17, 2008, 07:26:25 PM
is it true that S Ovation (IBUKI's distributor) is willing to shoulder the transportation expenses?
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: General HENkada on May 18, 2008, 08:11:01 AM
Example: Gail Kim knows she doesn't need to learn submission wrestling to maintain her popularity; she just needs to keep her good side out there; hence the posing topless.
I concur. And another example, just so it's not perceived that I'm picking on poor wittle Gail Kim, look at the relatively very athletic Shantelle Taylor. She probably left her WWE developmental deal with enough money to go to Japan... but she went to the breast augmentation surgeon instead. Again, I'm not knocking Shantelle for her decision. I'm a fan of hers. But it further illustrates the reality of what Vamp is attempting to state here... without it looking like I'm "berating" Gail Kim.
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: Sabrina the Teenage Cracker on May 18, 2008, 10:01:45 AM
Well I'm just saying everyone keeps saying she's crap when she's trying her hardest to become a great wrestler. She did work plenty of matches for the indies and in mexico during her time between raw and tna.

I do see what you mean, and if Ibuki isn't going to pay for their trip then I completely agree they should work on their looks or something. But if Ibuki is paying for it, than I can easily see them doing it.
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: Coffee on May 18, 2008, 01:07:37 PM
i don't see myself hating on her when i see effort on her part to be a great wrestler
it's just that she might be exterting a little too much, otherwise she wouldn't be injured (or was she injured again?)
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: Sabrina the Teenage Cracker on May 18, 2008, 01:54:24 PM
It's kayfabe injured. I've only heard of her being for real injured in the wwe.
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: Richlet on May 19, 2008, 04:42:30 AM
It's kayfabe injured. I've only heard of her being for real injured in the wwe.

Well *technically* she was injured in her last ppv singles match with kong, one of her implants broke (the "concussion" injury) and required replacing.  The things these gals go through just amazes me.  I'm a big Gail fan, but the way she bumps Kong's sitout power bomb scares the hell out of me. In a way, she reminds me of Curt Hennig how she takes her bumps.  She sells really well.
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: General HENkada on May 19, 2008, 11:10:28 AM
...she's trying her hardest...
Awww... poor wittle Gail Kim is trying her hardest. I kid. Seriously though, a lot of people try their hardest but just don't have the right amounts of nature and nurture to show for it. Fortunately for her, Gail's natural ability is that she is very attractive.
...one of her implants broke...
I think that was just untrue Interwebz newz. And, if I recall correctly, Gail Kim has suffered legit injurie(s) in her time with TNA... otherwise they are totally overworking the injury gimmick and her selling isn't as improved as some would like to believe.

Disclaimer: I think Gail Kim is a fair to middle in-ring performer and exceptionally attractive. This post is in no way intended to berate or belittle her.
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: Coffee on May 19, 2008, 12:11:39 PM
come on, not trying to sound nicey nicey over here but aren't we trying to portray a positive image of a wrestler here?
we may be occassionally bitching on hotta for being a no seller and all that kind of crap but even if a wrestler comes up short in doing what she can to put up a great match despite the fact that she already put her body on the line, aren't we supposed to give commendation to it?

i don't hate on SDR coz i don't think she's that bad but she is decent enough to carry that title
it wasn't her fault that she bordered on being overrated

on the other hand, i don't mind kong winning the belt away from her then since kong is often booked as a dominant monster so expect her to be a multiple title holder (that's how dominance is executed in promotions IMO)
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: Sabrina the Teenage Cracker on May 19, 2008, 03:35:03 PM
It's kayfabe injured. I've only heard of her being for real injured in the wwe.

Well *technically* she was injured in her last ppv singles match with kong, one of her implants broke (the "concussion" injury) and required replacing.  The things these gals go through just amazes me.  I'm a big Gail fan, but the way she bumps Kong's sitout power bomb scares the hell out of me. In a way, she reminds me of Curt Hennig how she takes her bumps.  She sells really well.

Uh yeah, if you haven't seen Manswers, nothing short of a bullet is gonna break those things.

And it's not like I'm saying Gail is an amazing wrestler, I know right now she'd probably only be working midcard or lowermidcard matches in shimmer, but she's really trying to improve herself. I just think she needs someone like melissa to help her striking and ground game. I'm just saying, even I have cooled down on the SDR hate.
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: 孤星 on May 19, 2008, 06:58:46 PM
^^For the last timeHe's not berating Gail Kim. Saying someone posed topless or got breast implants instead of going to Japan is not being negative about them; it's a fact that in this country that's all the "skill" you need to develop to move to new levels; which is why very few women learn to cut promos.. ..or even wrestle passingly why do that when all you have to do is pose sexily on the ropes and show your panties? This is why everyone praises Gail because since she went a little further she's like Dean Malenko compared to the rest of them. This goes for the ladies that know how to wrestle in the WWE, too.

I, on the other hand, would go to Japan but odds are if I really do give wrestling a try I'll never have enough money to make that happen. And certainly not if I'm only going to be there for one day only to get shat on. I'm sure I'll be reminded plenty of times in the states that I'm not worth shit(too harsh-that I'm nothing but an ant); I don't really need to go to Japan to get it reinforced as I loose to some homegrown talent. 

Example: Gail Kim knows she doesn't need to learn submission wrestling to maintain her popularity; she just needs to keep her good side out there; hence the posing topless.
I concur. And another example, just so it's not perceived that I'm picking on poor wittle Gail Kim, look at the relatively very athletic Shantelle Taylor. She probably left her WWE developmental deal with enough money to go to Japan... but she went to the breast augmentation surgeon instead. Again, I'm not knocking Shantelle for her decision. I'm a fan of hers. But it further illustrates the reality of what Vamp is attempting to state here... without it looking like I'm "berating" Gail Kim.

You can call it pessimistic all you want but the fact is it's reality. There's not really a need to go to Japan to improve for women. It really doesn't even exist except for some exceptions like Melissa. But most of the time a lot of women can't afford it and don't really need to do it. Even if IBUKI is picking up the tab. . .....
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: 孤星 on May 19, 2008, 07:00:36 PM
Yes, the jobbing really helps your skill level.

being a jobber doesn't always mean you're getting buried

Funny how you say that but everytime a notable face looses you claim they're getting buried.
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: Sabrina the Teenage Cracker on May 19, 2008, 07:19:39 PM
Yes I know there's not so much of a need to go. But again I'm not talking financially. I'm saying if Ibuki is picking up the tab like arsion did, then if you care enough about bettering yourself instead of so much about getting on TV, then I say they should take this opportunity. I'm not even saying it's a better idea to go to japan, but if they care more about improving their wrestling talent, and being remembered as a great wrestler, instead of a hot chick who can wrestle pretty well, then they might want to take this chance.
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: 孤星 on May 19, 2008, 07:23:27 PM
Even if you are a great wrestler who happens to be hot; guess what people are going to remember first, better and more clearly?

Even if some want to go; you guys did not get it out to the right people who MIGHT go like Stripes, Portia Perez and all the others who obviously AREN'T looking into getting into WWE or TNA and not people are totally mainstream material like Jennifer Blake who have too much to loose (and noth enough to gain) by going.

Plus, without finances how are they going to go?  *crazy In wrestling, you HAVE to speak financially.

And yet another "besides": usually people who care more about bettering themselves than getting into a major company (because they are smart enough to know it'll never happen) do so within their means and not beyond them.
Like I said, I'd love to go but chances are if I get into wrestling I probably won't be able to go to Japan at the same time.

If IBUKI is picking up the tab shouldn't they be doing something like tryouts to make sure what they're bringing over is at least marketable? Or maybe they'll hold tryouts once they get them over there. ...which doesn't make sense, either.

Space control to Major Tom.. . . a little less realism, please.
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: Sabrina the Teenage Cracker on May 19, 2008, 07:40:55 PM
The offer calls for you to send in a highlight dvd/tape of you wrestling, and a full body photo of you in your ring gear.

I sent it to more than just her. I sent it to Mickie Knuckles, Ariel, Allison Danger, Lufisto, Blue Nikita, Lacey(who's made it clear she doesn't want to work for a major company until they give women more than 3 minutes for a match), Serena Deeb(her, I'll admit, might worry more about getting into TNA or WWE), Jetta, Daizee Haze, Mercedes Martinez, Cindy Rogers, Wesna, and Rebecca Knox.

If you're so worried about only making money then what's the point of life? I mean I'd rather be making great matches than being in TNA or WWE. And if we say, what's the point of going to japan, I'll never make it into a major company unless I get a boobjob, then that's all it's ever gonna be. If more women try to put wrestling talent first, then a change can happen. But if everyone thought they need to be good looking to make it anywhere, we'd never have shimmer or chickfight.
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: 孤星 on May 19, 2008, 08:05:32 PM
But more women are never going to be it first, at least not for a couple of decades or maybe even never. Looks matter; they have always mattered and huge boobs are the new "in" thing- I have no idea why but it certainly DOES seem to be a prerequisite and you have to admit it always makes money, not just in wrestling but even in something as mundane as workout videos. How many women on SHIMMER or Chickfight are actually unattractive? And if they are; how many of them are faces?

Serena Deeb just went under the knife TWICE- nose and boobs got done.
(http://ovwrestling.com/images/results/screens/ovw%20(17).jpg)

(http://ovwrestling.com/images/results/screens/ovw%20(20).jpg)

Some people would like to make wrestling more than a just hobby seen by 50 people in a bar and a small portion of the wrestling community on the Internet and only working for a major company can make that happen. It's also gives more people the ability to continue wrestling. Starving on the indies can only go on for so long. Fans love it but they have no idea what it's like for the wrestlers--very few can make a full time career out of indy wrestling. Not everyone makes it, only a small percentage, but it's worth it to try if you want a bigger stage and some fame. I'm afraid most people are going to go for the big prize instead of the little tokens. It's not about the money, it's about that.
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: Sabrina the Teenage Cracker on May 19, 2008, 08:39:38 PM
I know, I'm just saying, that saying every woman shouldn't try to go to japan just isn't true. If you believe and love wrestling enough to make that sacrifice then that's what I'd do. But even if you love wrestling, and can't do it, there's nothing wrong with that. It's just what you're willing to sacrifice, and yes you can't always live on the indies, but wouldn't you rather take this opportunity while it's there then work on saving up for that boob job?

And, looks like serena had to gain 20 pounds in order to fit those boobs. I actually liked her nose. I like little imperfections like that. In that first pic she looks like simply luscious *bwah
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: Richlet on May 19, 2008, 11:12:34 PM
HEN:  I'm sure you're trying your hardest.. just like gail.  Maybe proofread what you're writing before you post ;)  But you're trying your hardest ;) 
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: General HENkada on May 20, 2008, 06:26:42 AM
You can call it pessimistic all you want but the fact is it's reality. There's not really a need to go to Japan to improve for women.
I agree. But there is not really a need to go under the knife or pose nude either. Going to Japan, undergoing surgery or posing nude are all matters of personal choice, not necessity.
HEN:  I'm sure you're trying your hardest.. just like gail.  Maybe proofread what you're writing before you post ;)  But you're trying your hardest ;)
Clever. I copy and paste like Gerweck. It's a chance I take.
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: Her Majesty Queen Kori I on May 20, 2008, 06:54:24 AM
Wait, you actually sent that Ibuki invite to all those wrestlers?!
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: Sabrina the Teenage Cracker on May 20, 2008, 01:52:46 PM
Yeah....and victoria, I don't expect her to take it, but crazier things have happened....maybe mcmahon would be nice for all the years of jobbing he's put her through.
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: luckycleareyes on May 20, 2008, 02:05:51 PM
You know from the way it's worded, it's just to open contacts with IBUKI as it says right on it "This is not a job application."

Of course, this is how something can begin and that's the point. And who knows, maybe some girls will ask about paying for training...

To my knowledge, IBUKI doesn't have a live-in dojo.
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: Her Majesty Queen Kori I on May 20, 2008, 02:06:51 PM
So you know, in the future.

Some people will take that the wrong way.  And consider it disrespectful.  Some will say thanks, but others could view it as someone taking a shot at their wrestling skills.
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: Coffee on May 20, 2008, 06:14:48 PM
it's just an invite, either they take it positively or negatively
but if they're more into honing their wrestling skills the stiffest way possible, they shouldn't ignore this opportunity
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: Her Majesty Queen Kori I on May 20, 2008, 07:41:09 PM
But you do realize it's just to establish contact, right? 

And you can't ignore their feelings on the matter either.
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: Coffee on May 20, 2008, 08:00:07 PM
hmm, establishing contacts in japan for further more bookings and getting to promote yourself real well is a good thing to me
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: Her Majesty Queen Kori I on May 21, 2008, 04:32:41 AM
I have no words for you right now.
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: Coffee on May 22, 2008, 08:01:46 PM
(http://www.luchawiki.org/images/1/16/LuFisto.jpg)
luFisto

and i finally found a picture of La Galactica unmasked

(http://www.luchawiki.org/images/c/cd/Panterasurena.jpg)

she now goes by the name Pantera Surena
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: Sabrina the Teenage Cracker on May 29, 2008, 05:40:37 AM
I think Alexa Thatcher is further proof, not everyone is about getting in to the big companies. She's hotter than hell, with two of the most beautiful eyes I've ever seen, and is still working for Maheken. Probably on her own dime, instead of paying for implants.
And I officially love Alexa after her match with melissa. She's officially proven she can go with the best of them.
(http://a594.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/70/m_fa0a3b2ccd7125ca04d5173fc9459ed9.jpg)
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: Coffee on May 29, 2008, 09:59:42 AM
i've watched a match of alexa thatcher but that's on youtube against melissa stripes if my memory serves me right
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: Sabrina the Teenage Cracker on May 29, 2008, 04:10:40 PM
She even said in an interview that she doesn't see herself in 5 years being in TNA or WWE because she doesn't feel it's something for her.
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: UnstableProtagonist on May 29, 2008, 07:57:55 PM
That is probably a wise decision on her part. It is quite nice to hear someone is involved with the wrestling business because they love doing it as opposed to just seeking super-stardom.
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: Sabrina the Teenage Cracker on May 29, 2008, 08:07:49 PM
She got into it because of her boyfriend(She is definitely not at all superficial if you've seen him). And he trained her for a while, and then she trained at a few schools along with him.

She can hit quite hard, and I love her standing bulldog. I'm not a big fan of her finisher, but other than that I love her. She's even not afraid to stiff and get stiffed.
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: Coffee on September 22, 2008, 07:07:03 PM
now that word has it that IBUKI is planning to go into an interpromotional deal with SHIMMER and Chickfight, shall we see an outpouring of gaijins then?
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: saywhaaat on September 23, 2008, 04:03:19 AM
Ooh, didn't realise there was an all-purpose thread for gaijins. Having seen quite a bit of the late 70's-80's joshi I've got a fair idea of the gaijin women I've been impressed with.

Obviously Monster Ripper, but also Cheryl Day and Lena Blair (a British wrestler) stuck out in my mind. There was also this entertaining black wrestler called Yvonne Jennings, who appeared a few times in Zenjo and then disappeared. I *think* she was trained by Mildred Burke (frankp316 might know/clarify that). She was a trash talking type heel as seen in a match she had with Jackie Sato-this one's on YouTube and it includes a VERY FUNNY pre-match interview where she attacks the interviewer after one of his questions about the match.

As for others who came later, probably Leilani Kai-she improved a lot wrestling in Japan. Those matches with Chigusa are among her best. Not sure how much Wendi Richter and Velvet McIntyre worked in Japan but I like their work too. I recall from that 80's women's Survivor Series match, Velvet was the 2nd best in it after the JB Angels. Really athletic girl. Shame none of them could become bigger stars (Wendi was but is barely mentioned anymore after the screwjob incident), thanks to Moolah's monopoly of everything women's wrestling. Ironcially a lot of Moolah-trained girls turned out to be much better than herself (whereas Jaguar was a fantastic wrestler AND trained several waves of great wrestlers too).

The 90's it was all about Debbie. I believe I've already written about her. Reggie Bennett was fucking terrible when she first arrived in Japan but she improved a lot to become decent. Really liked Esther Moreno too.
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: twisted on September 23, 2008, 08:26:58 AM
(Wendi was but is barely mentioned anymore after the screwjob incident),

which screwjob ( I don't even know what screwjob means...) accident? what happened?
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: Coffee on September 23, 2008, 05:23:02 PM
(Wendi was but is barely mentioned anymore after the screwjob incident),

which screwjob ( I don't even know what screwjob means...) accident? what happened?

screwjob (i think) is when someone refused to do a clean job so the bookers messed up with the ending instead
saywhaat, please elaborate on the screwjob incident with wendi
i read some press releases about her saying that the reason she got released by WWF then is because she started asking too much money (i don't want to believe that ... yet)
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: General HENkada on September 23, 2008, 06:23:54 PM
i read some press releases about her saying that the reason she got released by WWF then is because she started asking too much money (i don't want to believe that ... yet)
Or you can just watch her say it herself...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwnsWMwjsuc

...though "too much" is probably subjective. Perhaps a better way to put it would be that she overestimated her value to the WWF. While she was entitled to ask for more money, it's safe to say the promotion carried on just fine without her as it would have without just about any of the talent. That is the unenviable position wrestlers place themselves in with promoters.

Screwjob...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRWWhzk3Uxs
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: Coffee on September 23, 2008, 08:10:23 PM
thanks for the clips, HEN
that match was bad (as expected) since i noticed some blown spots
it's very much like the Montreal Screwjob
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: General HENkada on September 24, 2008, 10:04:02 AM
that match was bad (as expected)
Because Moolah was in it.
...since i noticed some blown spots
Blown spots don't make a bad match. Some of the most noted matches in history have awkward moments. Humans aren't perfect and shouldn't be. A worked wrestling match that is intended to tell a serious story should look like a fight, not a dance. Bad wrestlers like Moolah, however, tend to make for bad matches.
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: saywhaaat on September 24, 2008, 12:03:33 PM
It's ironic because Mae Young is seen as the goofy sidekick of Moolah, yet I've read about how she was a great wrestler in her prime in the 40's. If she had more influence over US women's wrestling, I'm sure she'd have done so much more than Moolah, and carrying on the legacy of Burke et al. Someone wrote about the Lipstick and Dynamite film on the old SC, saying that while Moolah came off as generally unlikeable, they gained much respect for Mae after watching it.
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: General HENkada on September 24, 2008, 12:46:53 PM
It's ironic because Mae Young is seen as the goofy sidekick of Moolah, yet I've read about how she was a great wrestler in her prime in the 40's. If she had more influence over US women's wrestling, I'm sure she'd have done so much more than Moolah, and carrying on the legacy of Burke et al. Someone wrote about the Lipstick and Dynamite film on the old SC, saying that while Moolah came off as generally unlikeable, they gained much respect for Mae after watching it.
Mae could probably stretch most of us right now, from all accounts. If ladies like Byers and Burke had gotten the foothold on women's professional wrestling that Moolah had in her relationship with Vince J. McMahon, Byers and Burke would be revered like Sato and Yakoto are in joshi pro wres. I believe things would be a lot different... like history changing different and hardcore fan perspective different.
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: Coffee on September 26, 2008, 02:45:32 AM
i remember watching on dailymotion one time how wrestling came about in the US then with interviews from Moolah and how she admitted that she simply got into wrestling for the money (or for the moolah) hence the name. then mildred burke was mentioned as one who'd pick a random guy from the audience to challenge him to a wrestling match (it wasn't noted though if it was a work or a shoot).

i think it's from this playlist i dug from dailymotion where it was discussed
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6qal4_the-unreal-story-of-professional-wr_sport
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: Coffee on September 04, 2009, 11:16:33 PM
(http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m200/DevilSoprano/Wrestling/Awesome-Kong.jpg)

 *bday
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: M.H.C. ~ Ambassador to the Grand Bichy of Homewreckia on September 07, 2009, 12:32:55 PM
Happy birthday to one of few wrestlers that ALWAYS deliver to me. *bday
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: Sabrina the Teenage Cracker on November 28, 2009, 05:39:58 PM
(http://sixpop.com/files/1171/s-P1230363.jpg)
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: Sabrina the Teenage Cracker on June 17, 2010, 06:48:37 PM
Mickie James is making her japanese debut for Smash
http://www.smashxsmash.jp/cgi-bin/topics/diary.cgi?no=170 (http://www.smashxsmash.jp/cgi-bin/topics/diary.cgi?no=170)
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: Coffee on June 18, 2010, 12:21:42 AM
Mickie James is making her japanese debut for Smash
http://www.smashxsmash.jp/cgi-bin/topics/diary.cgi?no=170 (http://www.smashxsmash.jp/cgi-bin/topics/diary.cgi?no=170)

i think i crapped my pants
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: Ghost1598 on June 18, 2010, 12:09:14 PM
Mickie James is making her japanese debut for Smash
http://www.smashxsmash.jp/cgi-bin/topics/diary.cgi?no=170 (http://www.smashxsmash.jp/cgi-bin/topics/diary.cgi?no=170)


I remember bringing up this subject a few weeks ago and I almost got kick out of the board *bwah
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: Sabrina the Teenage Cracker on June 18, 2010, 01:00:01 PM
No, we told you that you had placed the thread in the wrong part of the forum.

And yes no one honestly took the claim that she might seriously. But since she is going to japan, w00t to that.
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: Ghost1598 on June 18, 2010, 05:10:49 PM
I know I was just kidding. I do hope this will open door for more american wrestlers (with Talent) to work in Japan
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: General HENkada on June 19, 2010, 05:21:53 PM
I know I was just kidding. I do hope this will open door for more american wrestlers (with Talent) to work in Japan
The door has never been closed.
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: The Brown Buffalo on June 21, 2010, 01:48:44 PM
I know I was just kidding. I do hope this will open door for more american wrestlers (with Talent) to work in Japan
The door has never been closed.

Oh yeah? Then why is Nicole Bass out of a job?
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: General HENkada on June 23, 2010, 09:13:11 AM
I know I was just kidding. I do hope this will open door for more american wrestlers (with Talent) to work in Japan
The door has never been closed.
Oh yeah? Then why is Nicole Bass out of a job?
Because all is right with the world.
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: luckycleareyes on August 28, 2010, 11:08:24 AM

RINGSTARS announced that US "idol wrestler" Cherry Bomb will come to Japan at the end of September.

http://ameblo.jp/ringstars/entry-10632580151.html (http://ameblo.jp/ringstars/entry-10632580151.html)

I'm thinking this is probably Hailey Hatred's doing, as Japan wanted to turn Alexa Thatcher into their top gaijin idol wrestler but she chose instead to sabotage her career for her pro wrestling boyfriend.

If I remember correctly Hailey was the one who booked her originally.
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: 孤星 on August 28, 2010, 11:19:11 AM
I don't think Alexa "chose to instead sabotage her career for her pro wrestling boyfriend". I think it was a combination of too much pressure too soon and the boyfriend thing.

Isn't Cherry Bomb a WWE prospect?

Well, it's good that girls who want to go to Japan are able to and have a contact in Hailey. We need it.
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: luckycleareyes on August 28, 2010, 11:38:42 AM
I don't think Alexa "chose to instead sabotage her career for her pro wrestling boyfriend". I think it was a combination of too much pressure too soon and the boyfriend thing.

Regardless, she was one of the best prospects in a long time (good looking, athletic, well trained, good timing & technique) and was on the fast track. She showed up at TNA and was TV in like 5 minutes as "Alexa Jade."

She was easily WWE material, and I guess because success would've been so easy for her I just find it unbelievable she would suddenly retire because her boyfriend (who had already tried and failed in the big time) was retiring.

Of course, veteran women wrestlers will tell you to use the word "retire" on somebody who has been wrestling for under 5-7 years isn't a good word. They like to call it "quitting."
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: Sabrina the Teenage Cracker on August 28, 2010, 11:47:48 AM
Alexa Thatcher's actually back now.
I'll have to see if Cherry Bomb's any good. I have a match of hers with Daizee which will be a great test to see if she's any good.
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: luckycleareyes on August 28, 2010, 12:16:55 PM
Alexa Thatcher's actually back now.

Back where?
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: 孤星 on August 28, 2010, 01:26:43 PM
I don't think Alexa "chose to instead sabotage her career for her pro wrestling boyfriend". I think it was a combination of too much pressure too soon and the boyfriend thing.

Regardless, she was one of the best prospects in a long time (good looking, athletic, well trained, good timing & technique) and was on the fast track. She showed up at TNA and was TV in like 5 minutes as "Alexa Jade."

She was easily WWE material, and I guess because success would've been so easy for her I just find it unbelievable she would suddenly retire because her boyfriend (who had already tried and failed in the big time) was retiring.

Of course, veteran women wrestlers will tell you to use the word "retire" on somebody who has been wrestling for under 5-7 years isn't a good word. They like to call it "quitting."

I believe how pretty she was augmented how athletic she was. Athena/Trouble is as athletic (perhaps more so, I haven't seen her ACW joshi matches) and I don't see her being touted nearly as much as Alexa, even though she's now at the same experience Alexa was then. That perception placed an onus on her she couldn't quite deliver so quickly at her experience level.

Like I said, her boyfriend is not the sole reason she retired.

And I don't quite "get" how she was more athletic than some of the other lesser known girls who are also quite athletic. Was it the moveset?
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: luckycleareyes on August 28, 2010, 01:37:16 PM
And I don't quite "get" how she was more athletic than some of the other lesser known girls who are also quite athletic. Was it the moveset?

I didn't say she was more athletic than some of the lesser known girls, I just said she was athletic.

She was also a Northeast indy wrestler which always gets you more exposure.
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: Eivion on August 28, 2010, 01:57:12 PM

RINGSTARS announced that US "idol wrestler" Cherry Bomb will come to Japan at the end of September.

http://ameblo.jp/ringstars/entry-10632580151.html (http://ameblo.jp/ringstars/entry-10632580151.html)

I'm thinking this is probably Hailey Hatred's doing, as Japan wanted to turn Alexa Thatcher into their top gaijin idol wrestler but she chose instead to sabotage her career for her pro wrestling boyfriend.

If I remember correctly Hailey was the one who booked her originally.
Who is Alexa Thatcher? Has she ever been to Japan once? Who is it that was trying to turn her into an idol?

And its honestly hard to call quitting wrestling early into one's career sabotaging themselves unless they were in a situation where they could make good money.

And what is that article under the one wit the gaijin? I noticed a pic with Fuka and Nanae.
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: luckycleareyes on August 28, 2010, 02:10:55 PM
Who is Alexa Thatcher? Has she ever been to Japan once? Who is it that was trying to turn her into an idol?

Alexa Thatcher was a short run women wrestle from New Jersey. She was trained by Jay Lethal & Corvis Fear. She appeared in JAPW and plenty of other Northeast Indy shows. She also made some SHIMMER appearances and wrestled on TV for TNA a couple times as "Alexa Jade."

She was booked by MAKEHEN and was flown to Japan where she was in a match with the Shirais and Mikado (if I'm remembering correctly). This caused her to miss a couple of bookings in the US as nobody believed her when she said she was booked in Japan until photos of the match appeared.

its honestly hard to call quitting wrestling early into one's career sabotaging themselves unless they were in a situation where they could make good money.

She WAS in a situation where she could make money.  MAKEHEN wanted to bring her back immediately and make her an idol, but she was in a locker room drama love triangle here in the US and had tons of heat on her. Her boyfriend then retired and she did they same thing. She had a promising career ahead of her.

And the whole quitting/retiring was told to me by a veteran US women wrestler, it wasn't Thatcher they were talking about in that instance but some European girl wrestler I think...

And what is that article under the one wit the gaijin? I noticed a pic with Fuka and Nanae.

It's about the S-CUP show coming up where Fuka vs. Nanae exhibition shoot boxing will happen. Also the girl standing on the scale in her skivvies is Mai Ichii.
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: Sabrina the Teenage Cracker on August 28, 2010, 02:21:07 PM
Athenma's MUCH more athletic. Athena does springboar moves...like from the outside to the inside ones, and she does front flip moves. She just needs to learn how to sell a little more.


If you need to know anything about alexa thatcher, watch her match with Melissa, it's one of my faavorite Melissa matches, and that's REALLY saying something.

She was managing at a Pro Wrestling Syndicate show in 2010.

I think I have photos of Alexa in japan, lemme see if I can find em.
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: Eivion on August 28, 2010, 03:05:25 PM
Quote
She WAS in a situation where she could make money.  MAKEHEN wanted to bring her back immediately and make her an idol, but she was in a locker room drama love triangle here in the US and had tons of heat on her. Her boyfriend then retired and she did they same thing. She had a promising career ahead of her.
I said good money which that and MAKEHEN don't seem like exactly go hand in hand on though perhaps you know more on that. I can't see them somehow making her a successful idol during the short time they were around. That said it is kind a of bitch move to do something like that after another wrestler backed you for the job.
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: luckycleareyes on August 28, 2010, 03:41:39 PM
I said good money which that and MAKEHEN don't seem like exactly go hand in hand on though perhaps you know more on that. I can't see them somehow making her a successful idol during the short time they were around. That said it is kind a of bitch move to do something like that after another wrestler backed you for the job.

I don't think the money had anything to do with why she quit.
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: General HENkada on August 29, 2010, 06:40:00 AM
Athena's MUCH more athletic. Athena does springboar moves...like from the outside to the inside ones, and she does front flip moves.
Not that she was relevant to the discussion at hand... but I will add that she is actually more athletic than what you see of her in matches. Her athleticism is kind of limited by what she is comfortable with doing in matches. The springboards and stuff are more about coordination. Athena is flat-out strong and fast and quick (all those tangible things by which an athlete is measured). Her selling is good too, fwiw. Just as good as anyone else's for that matter. A lot of that is subject to the demands of the match or booker (no pun intended) in question.
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: Eivion on August 29, 2010, 07:38:05 AM
Who is Athena?
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: Sabrina the Teenage Cracker on August 29, 2010, 01:27:57 PM
Athena's MUCH more athletic. Athena does springboar moves...like from the outside to the inside ones, and she does front flip moves.
Not that she was relevant to the discussion at hand... but I will add that she is actually more athletic than what you see of her in matches. Her athleticism is kind of limited by what she is comfortable with doing in matches. The springboards and stuff are more about coordination. Athena is flat-out strong and fast and quick (all those tangible things by which an athlete is measured). Her selling is good too, fwiw. Just as good as anyone else's for that matter. A lot of that is subject to the demands of the match or booker (no pun intended) in question.

Ah, I was merely watching her match with Mschif, and she kept liking getting up after stuff and whatnot and stuff. It kinda irked me, but then again that could be as you said, on the booker maybe wanting the matches to be shorter and telling them to easy up on the selling, like how Quack told Pac to nosell some things to get all his spots in at DGUSA.

And to Eivon, Athena's a newer wrestler(only been wrestling for 3 years) who's one of the most athletic girls on the indy scene. She just needs some more seasoning and to work with more advanced girls and she'll be shooting to the top.
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Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: 孤星 on August 29, 2010, 06:24:17 PM
Athena's MUCH more athletic. Athena does springboar moves...like from the outside to the inside ones, and she does front flip moves.
Not that she was relevant to the discussion at hand...

Why is there no eye roll smiley on this board? I brought her up to display how Alexa Thatcher wasn't really all that athletic, especially Japan-caliber athletic.

But that's probably "not at all relevant" to you as well.
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: General HENkada on August 30, 2010, 06:28:51 AM
...work with more advanced girls...
Definitely this on the regular.
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: Sabrina the Teenage Cracker on October 03, 2010, 12:47:11 PM
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Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: 孤星 on October 03, 2010, 12:52:06 PM
Okay. Cherry's teeny but she looks like a giant.  *gah
Japan, your perspective never ceases to amaze me.

I think Cherry's photos may be too racy for joshi.  *hot

Hey, a Clash t-shirt!  *approve
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: Sabrina the Teenage Cracker on October 03, 2010, 01:09:49 PM
She's 4 inches shorter than Hailey, but she's wearing like giant motherfucking high heels.  *haha

Okuda looks GORGEOUS there.

I was giving Hailey some names of girls who she might bring over. I told her if Aussies are cheaper, Rate Tank, Jessie, and Madison are amazing. THen I also gave her some info on Nicole Matthews & Athena.
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: UnstableProtagonist on October 03, 2010, 10:26:48 PM
Here's a recommendation (a bit of a stretch, though)... Jessica James. She's one-half of Rachel and Jessica's Excellent Tag Team alongside Rachel Summerlynn. 
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: General HENkada on October 04, 2010, 11:33:49 AM
Okuda looks GORGEOUS there.
truedat
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: 孤星 on October 04, 2010, 12:03:53 PM
Here's a recommendation (a bit of a stretch, though)... Jessica James. She's one-half of Rachel and Jessica's Excellent Tag Team alongside Rachel Summerlynn. 

Why specifically Jessica?
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: Sabrina the Teenage Cracker on October 04, 2010, 12:43:07 PM
Jessica has all the charisma in the world, she just needs to get more consistent in-ring. I think Joshi or Lucha would be great for her, especially training with other women her size. However, unless they're an idol(which, minus the hair, Jessica would qualify as) Joshi usually just wants taller non-azn girls like Monster Ripper, Amazing Kong, Madusa, Hailey, Kraven, Melissa, Death Rey, Wesna, April Hunter, Danger, Panther Claw, ect, ect.
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: 孤星 on October 04, 2010, 12:53:16 PM
Yeah, I've noticed they kind of want bigger girls: which makes sense, why fly in girls of similar size? I don't think Jessica is "consistent" because she seems to be kind of old school (but yeah, lucharesu would work wonders for her, especially the agility counters and chaining.) Which is why I asked "why her?" because she doesn't really fit the idea of the type of wrestler who would be asked to go to Japan but then again. ... you know, they just seem to be out for something else. But a girl like Athena would be a great addition if they ever wanted to break away from the bigger is better scale.
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: Coffee on October 05, 2010, 05:16:56 AM
Cherry Bomb looked like Hailey Hatred with hair dyed darkly. Not that it's a bad thing. (I'm really so behind in terms of modern joshi. I hate myself for that.)

Yeah, I've noticed they kind of want bigger girls: ... But a girl like Athena would be a great addition if they ever wanted to break away from the bigger is better scale.

Big girls work well as heels if they can wrestle too. It's not like being big can be an excuse for being sloppy. It's just that bookers today are still somewhat stuck in the schoolgirl era where the big girls bully the younger/cute girls. And also the foreigner heel still has some clout (notice how most heels lately in the 'E are non-Americans?) in basic booking.
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: ACCRO on October 05, 2010, 10:33:56 AM
I don't remember who mentioned it, or if it was even this website, but there's a video of Manami Toyota putting Sara Del Rey in the Figure Four, and Sara yelling "No Japanese, Duuuuuuuh"

Sara Del Rey Figure Four Leglock Collection (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQQgn78eV70#)
Starts at 3:10
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: Sabrina the Teenage Cracker on November 22, 2010, 11:14:23 PM
Wow, so Tiffany from WWE wants to wrestle in Joshi, according to the preview for her Deever(Fairy) Dirt interview.
Her two best matches in the WWE probably.
WWE Smackdown 3/12/10 Michelle McCool vs Tiffany (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fS1eitiUuo#ws)
WWE Superstars 08/05/10 Tiffany vs Layla (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4j9BSxkonE#ws)
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: JoshiFanficz on November 23, 2010, 12:20:37 AM
^^

Well, judging from her work, the only promotion that would probably book her is STARDOM. But good for her for wanting to continue wrestling.
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: Coffee on November 23, 2010, 06:24:28 AM
^^

Well, judging from her work, the only promotion that would probably book her is STARDOM. But good for her for wanting to continue wrestling.

if she can beat the crap out of Drew McIntyre, expect big things for her to come ...
 *haha
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: 孤星 on November 23, 2010, 06:19:40 PM
^^

Well, judging from her work, the only promotion that would probably book her is STARDOM. But good for her for wanting to continue wrestling.

She was trained WWE style, remember.

If she was trained in regular pro wrestling she'd probably be okay. Unlike some of the other, harder pushed girls (Alicia Fox is the biggest offender next to KellyKelly) she's actually athletic and can handle her bodyweight in movement.

I think Eve Torres would also be good if she was trained in regular pro wrestling and not WWE style.
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: TasotheGreek on November 24, 2010, 01:18:09 AM
I looked up Reggie Bennet, I liked her when I saw her in Arsion and once I saw a clip of her in ECW.
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: Coffee on November 24, 2010, 03:44:20 AM

She was trained WWE style, remember.

If she was trained in regular pro wrestling she'd probably be okay. Unlike some of the other, harder pushed girls (Alicia Fox is the biggest offender next to KellyKelly) she's actually athletic and can handle her bodyweight in movement.

I think Eve Torres would also be good if she was trained in regular pro wrestling and not WWE style.

of course i haven't forgotten that. it's just that ever since i've read of how she was arrested for physical assault (with Drew as the victim of said assault), i've told myself, "if she can stiff up for the hubby, she can be stiff."
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: Sabrina the Teenage Cracker on November 24, 2010, 08:42:46 AM
She has great strikes and has a weightlifting backround. She also has some great BITCH RAGEiness that would be great for joshi. I"m assuming Tajiri will bring her to SMASH after Mickie didn't work out.

I agree about Alicia. She constantly trips over her own limbs. If Omukai, Nishio, and Jessie Mckay can get over that, there's no reason she can't.
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: 孤星 on November 24, 2010, 01:22:55 PM
A weight lifting background.. ...she is stick thin.  *haha I don't think Tajiri knows Tiffany/Taryn. He doesn't just bring over any WWE name, he brings over people he became friends with during his time in the E and in original ECW.


She was trained WWE style, remember.

If she was trained in regular pro wrestling she'd probably be okay. Unlike some of the other, harder pushed girls (Alicia Fox is the biggest offender next to KellyKelly) she's actually athletic and can handle her bodyweight in movement.

I think Eve Torres would also be good if she was trained in regular pro wrestling and not WWE style.

of course i haven't forgotten that. it's just that ever since i've read of how she was arrested for physical assault (with Drew as the victim of said assault), i've told myself, "if she can stiff up for the hubby, she can be stiff."

I was posting towards NikkySan, I didn't even see your post originally.

When a woman is moved to physical violence. ....something is up.
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: Coffee on November 25, 2010, 04:31:09 AM

I was posting towards NikkySan, I didn't even see your post originally.

When a woman is moved to physical violence. ....something is up.

i know. i saw my own gym trainer getting bullied by his own wife. i tried to suppress laughter while seeing it (actually the wife would really let the public see it which in my opinion is already hurting the hubby's ego)

i think being a wrestler might help Tiffany unleash rage. unfortunately since she can't be too stiff toward the Divas, she ended up unleashing the rage on Drew
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: kudofanatic on November 25, 2010, 09:55:00 AM
The only WWE wrestler who would do well in Japan is, without a doubt, Gail Kim!!

Unfortunately, they have buried her so badly that I'm not sure how her skills are now but I think Gail needs to go to Japan...to salvage her career, sharpen her skills & add a solid wrestler to the joshi roster *bwah
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: Sabrina the Teenage Cracker on November 25, 2010, 02:56:49 PM
The only WWE wrestler who would do well in Japan is, without a doubt, Gail Kim!!

Unfortunately, they have buried her so badly that I'm not sure how her skills are now but I think Gail needs to go to Japan...to salvage her career, sharpen her skills & add a solid wrestler to the joshi roster *bwah

Gail wouldn't do well, and it's obvious she's not worried about having SO GREAT MATCHES considering she went from TNA to WWE despite the rosters of both at the time. Nattie and Beth would be the only Divas who'd do well.
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: JoshiFanficz on November 25, 2010, 07:16:31 PM
The only WWE wrestler who would do well in Japan is, without a doubt, Gail Kim!!

Sorry but I had to facepalm at that one. The only thing Gail has going for her is highspots. Take those away, and she'd be pretty average. Not to mention, I'm not sure if she'd be able to handle the puro style. AmKong is probably the stiffest wrestler she's faced, so if she wrestled girls like Aja, Satomura, Kana or even Shuri she'd get destroyed. Like ELPS said, Beth or Nattie (who had an awesome match with AmKong in Japan) would do much better in Japan. They are more well rounded, and I can see them playing a gaijin heel pretty well. And I would pay good money to see Phoenix vs Haruyama.
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: 孤星 on November 25, 2010, 10:16:52 PM
I second Beth and Nattie. Gail is alright but she's a babyface only type of wrestler, I don't doubt her toughness. I don't know what she was like as Felina. .. ..

The only WWE wrestler who would do well in Japan is, without a doubt, Gail Kim!!

Unfortunately, they have buried her so badly that I'm not sure how her skills are now but I think Gail needs to go to Japan...to salvage her career, sharpen her skills & add a solid wrestler to the joshi roster *bwah

Gail wouldn't do well, and it's obvious she's not worried about having SO GREAT MATCHES considering she went from TNA to WWE despite the rosters of both at the time. Nattie and Beth would be the only Divas who'd do well.

I think she did care about putting on great matches and it pleased her to be apart of something great for womens' wrestling in TNA. The problem was she (and a lot of other women) just couldn't make a living wage in TNA and that is why she went to WWE. TNA paid so little that when all was said and done (travel costs) she was basically paying them for her time.  And then they basically just said "you're a woman. fuck you" and lowballed her right out of the company. Sad. So back to sexist WWE style.
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: luckycleareyes on December 18, 2010, 10:36:27 PM
More photos of Madison Eagles from the 11/28 NEO show.

(http://i56.tinypic.com/2vvwdx1.jpg)

(http://i52.tinypic.com/fw5dle.jpg)

(http://i55.tinypic.com/2iih452.jpg)

(http://i56.tinypic.com/b63csj.jpg)

(http://i54.tinypic.com/3481zte.jpg)

(http://i52.tinypic.com/16556p.jpg)

(http://i51.tinypic.com/51rb01.jpg)

(http://i52.tinypic.com/103vprp.jpg)

(http://i55.tinypic.com/11b2ahf.jpg)

(http://i51.tinypic.com/2vaxlrc.jpg)
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: 孤星 on December 18, 2010, 11:12:07 PM
A weight lifting background.. ...she is stick thin.  *

Apparently, former WWE Diva Tiffany has a chronic illness.
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: Coffee on December 19, 2010, 04:58:26 AM
thanks for the pic, lucky. i just noticed that Madison lacked some facial expressions. i know she's a heel at SHIMMER but ... either the pics were taken from a bad angle or Madison had issues with facial expressions as a heel
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: King of Joshi on December 19, 2010, 09:18:35 AM
thanks for the pic, lucky. i just noticed that Madison lacked some facial expressions. i know she's a heel at SHIMMER but ... either the pics were taken from a bad angle or Madison had issues with facial expressions as a heel

She definitely doesn't lack that.
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: luckycleareyes on December 19, 2010, 10:04:20 AM
thanks for the pic, lucky. i just noticed that Madison lacked some facial expressions. i know she's a heel at SHIMMER but ... either the pics were taken from a bad angle or Madison had issues with facial expressions as a heel

She definitely doesn't lack that.

I think she toned down the heel act in Japan since this was basically SHIMMER's first real introduction there, and wanted to make a good 1st impression. She went with the fighting spirit/stoic warrior & women athlete route and it worked really well.

Pretty much every fan that saw her and commented on her was impressed. Obviously they're marks for size, but she was also regularly commented on for her mat skills and her athleticism.

What hasn't been mentioned too often, probably because she said it in English with an Australian accent to 175 Japanese people, but after her match she spoke on the microphone and appealed to the fans to keep supporting women wrestling. She said the women wrestlers of Japan, American, Australia, Canada and Mexico are ready to come together to keep joshi wrestling alive.




Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: 孤星 on December 19, 2010, 07:26:21 PM
Europe is gonna be so mad it got left out.
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: luckycleareyes on December 20, 2010, 05:47:09 PM
Europe is gonna be so mad it got left out.

No European representation was on the show....
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: 孤星 on December 21, 2010, 03:47:09 PM
Europe is gonna be so mad it got left out.

No European representation was on the show....

It was a joke (about how that country got left out, to clarify).
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: Coffee on December 27, 2010, 12:15:57 AM
 *livid (http://www.411mania.com/wrestling/news/167662/Awesome-Kong-Arrested-In-Florida.htm)
click me for news
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: 孤星 on December 27, 2010, 08:29:41 PM
Yeah but at least it wasn't anything too serious and she had a low bail.
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: UnstableProtagonist on December 27, 2010, 09:28:43 PM
Most people had done worse and more idiotic things on the road than whatever got Konger arrested.
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: Sabrina the Teenage Cracker on January 19, 2011, 09:50:56 AM
Madison Eagles, Sexy Starr, & Cherry Bomb vs Hailey Hatred, Yoshiko Tamura, & Makoto 11/28/10 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrSYR5iEIio#ws)
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: luckycleareyes on May 09, 2011, 07:42:27 AM
Good place as any to put the random Kellie Skater in Japan pics:

(http://i53.tinypic.com/2vudi4z.jpg)

(http://i53.tinypic.com/11webn5.jpg)

(http://i55.tinypic.com/zulax2.jpg)

(http://i56.tinypic.com/2easzfc.jpg)

The last pic is after the show, Kellie went to SANPOU (Ayumi's parents' restaurant with Ayumi, Iida and I think Hiroyo...)

Ayumi only said she from Australia. Also to give ELPS more ammo she posted:

ケリーめちゃめちゃ可愛いです♥

"Kellie mechamecha kawaii desu♥"

mechamecha is like "ridiculously" so "Kellie is ridiculously pretty/cute"

Bunch more photos from Facebook here = http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=oa.216643485032512
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: JoshiFanficz on May 09, 2011, 03:54:52 PM
C'mon Kellie! Do it for us!  *approve
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: luckycleareyes on May 09, 2011, 05:19:49 PM
(http://livedoor.2.blogimg.jp/tomoka_sov/imgs/e/b/ebc627ec.jpg)

Tomoka posted about that REINA's mysterious X is now マイパーティーパートナー.  ("mai pateii patonaa" = "my party partner")

"Surprising selection!"

相変わらずケリーはいつでも元気です。 ("Kellie wa itsudemo genki desu" = "Kellie is always cheerful")

Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: luckycleareyes on May 09, 2011, 06:40:54 PM

Have to say - Skater going out partying with Tomoka in a green cap is A+
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: luckycleareyes on May 10, 2011, 08:13:34 AM
(http://i52.tinypic.com/2mx4iz4.jpg)

This is from Ayumi's blog. She went shopping in Harajuku with Hailey Hatred and Kellie. She said since Kellie's time is short she wants to have fun with her before she goes back.

The Goomba in Japan is called a "Kuribo" which means "chestnut people." Kurihara means chestnut field. Looks like they not only share a name, but the same haircut...

 *bwah

Also, Hailey's hat "Submission Tendencies" like Suicidal Tendencies.
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: LeeRoggy on May 12, 2011, 05:51:43 AM

Have to say - Skater going out partying with Tomoka in a green cap is A+


Get the term right!  It's a 'Gang Green' hat to those of us NY Jets fans!!!!!!!

J - E - T - S, Jets! Jets! Jets!

2012 Super Bowl or Bust . . .
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: luckycleareyes on May 13, 2011, 08:53:31 AM
I just saw Mia Yim's Facebook photos she posted from Japan on twitter.

Does anybody know her? Where is she and Roxxie staying? They seem to have a brand new apartment somewhere, I wonder if REINA is planning on using that to house gaijin?

It's really nice, though it seems like it might be far from the center of Tokyo...

Since Skater is there as a guest of S-OVATION she's has a hotel room I think near their store in Hamamatsu-cho.
(She mentions using the Oimachi GOLD's GYM which is very close to Hamamatsu-cho)

Here's the link Mia Yim posted - http://fb.me/xXYG1hJk

Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: luckycleareyes on May 16, 2011, 10:16:18 PM
Pics of the gaijin from DIANA 5/15.

(http://i56.tinypic.com/20fc5yq.jpg)

Andrea Mother

(http://i54.tinypic.com/2rqktow.jpg)

Rain

(http://i51.tinypic.com/25jwj76.jpg)

Annie Social

The fan who took this photos said he enjoyed all their matches.

He also went to REINA and got a photo of Kelly.

(http://i54.tinypic.com/nv3x92.jpg)

Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: dafalcon on May 17, 2011, 09:18:34 AM
I just saw Mia Yim's Facebook photos she posted from Japan on twitter.

Does anybody know her? Where is she and Roxxie staying? They seem to have a brand new apartment somewhere, I wonder if REINA is planning on using that to house gaijin?

It's really nice, though it seems like it might be far from the center of Tokyo...

Since Skater is there as a guest of S-OVATION she's has a hotel room I think near their store in Hamamatsu-cho.
(She mentions using the Oimachi GOLD's GYM which is very close to Hamamatsu-cho)

Here's the link Mia Yim posted - http://fb.me/xXYG1hJk

Yes, Mia and Roxie are staying in an apartment in Chiba, away from central Tokyo.    She mentioned "I am near the Yawatajuku stop from the Keiyo line (train). Close to Chiba."

I don't know if REINA is planning to use this apartment for gaijin, but it is a likely possibility.
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: JoshiFanficz on May 17, 2011, 02:26:28 PM
Annie looks she's gonna pop out of her top at any moment.
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: luckycleareyes on May 18, 2011, 06:44:37 PM
The illustrator who drew Madison also drew Kelly and got her autograph.

(http://i53.tinypic.com/jajhy0.jpg)

He also saw her as a "tomboyish sports women" and explains that "Rate Tank" means "Big Tank" because he asked her. He said he spoke the her and she said she wants to come back to Japan many times. He said the fans really enjoyed her character and want to see her again.

He likes the idea of Japanese wrestlers against foreign wrestlers and will be going to the next REINA show.
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: King of Joshi on May 18, 2011, 06:50:48 PM
Tomboy and heavymakeup. Tomboy and heavymakeup...
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: luckycleareyes on May 19, 2011, 09:04:02 PM
More REINA picks.

(http://i51.tinypic.com/330em2w.jpg)

(http://i56.tinypic.com/wrhzjl.jpg)

(http://i53.tinypic.com/18ks5j.jpg)
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: dafalcon on May 26, 2011, 03:03:25 AM
Mia Yim prepares to work the REINA 3 show this Saturday:  Yim/Kanbayashi vs Toyota/Hatred.  Toyota was wow-ing AJW crowds the month Mia Ym was born (April 1989) so it's hard to overestimate the legend-status Toyota has for a young wrestler like Yim.
Mia released news today on Twitter that she will return to Japan to wrestle again.  I assume it will be later this summer because she returns to college for her final semester this fall.  No word yet on whether she will return with REINA or some other promotion.  Also no word on dates.  Mia has obviously impressed enough in this first visit to earn a return ticket.  Congratulations, Mia!
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: Sakebito_ONI on May 28, 2011, 10:54:45 AM
Guess Roxie Cotton made a good impression with Hiroyo.  Maybe we'll see her at SHIMMER soon...
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: 孤星 on May 28, 2011, 01:58:51 PM
I've always liked Roxie, I don't know why. I just have. Even with my limited exposure to the Beatdown Betties.
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: dafalcon on May 29, 2011, 09:18:41 PM
Mia Yim announced today that she will be returning to Japan July 18-August 25 and again December 15-January 5 to work for REINA.  This was obviously an immensely successful joshi puroresu debut for Mia and from her account, she loved every minute of it!  Congratulations Mia! Congratulations REINA for talking a risk and giving a relative unknown some big matches (Hiroyo and Toyota) -- a big stage on which to achieve or flounder -- Mia achieved with distinction!   *pwease
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: Sakebito_ONI on May 29, 2011, 09:57:32 PM
to be fair, that match with Toyota was a tag match.  Aki and Hailey might not be too pleased that everyone seems to keep forgetting about all that.  Hiroyo did have some good things to say about her after their singles match, however.
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: 22nijuni on May 30, 2011, 03:15:11 PM
Props also need to be given to Hailey, just for being so damn cool and hanging with and showing around the gaijin coming in. She's there for a long haul, but definitley being super cool with all the gals coming over and showing them a good time. No bitterness =professional.
Hailey rocks!
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: dafalcon on May 30, 2011, 08:03:15 PM
Props also need to be given to Hailey, just for being so damn cool and hanging with and showing around the gaijin coming in. She's there for a long haul, but definitley being super cool with all the gals coming over and showing them a good time. No bitterness =professional.
Hailey rocks!
I totally agree about Hailey!  She has been amazing to Mia and Roxie (and probably the girls at Diana too).  I believe she was instrumental in recommending Mia and Roxie in the first place.  It has been extrememly generous of her to give up some of her own agenda to be friend, trainer, translator, tour guide -- Hailey is the best!  I hope Mia and Roxie brought her everything she asked for from the States!
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: luckycleareyes on June 02, 2011, 11:08:19 AM
(http://i51.tinypic.com/21ss2h.jpg)

DIANA announced that Annie Social, a former bartender, will be the guest bartender at Kyoko Inoue's bar in Shinagawa, "Akayu" on Friday, June 3 from 8PM to 11PM.

via ringstars blog - http://ameblo.jp/ringstars/entry-10910949967.html
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: luckycleareyes on June 03, 2011, 01:14:00 PM
(http://i54.tinypic.com/2ih002u.jpg) (http://i53.tinypic.com/2s9vuyu.jpg)

Annie's promo pic and her bar tending at Kyoko's bar.
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: luckycleareyes on July 24, 2011, 02:55:20 PM
Pics from Nanae Takahashi vs. Mercedes Martinez at STARDOM 7/24.

http://sportsnavi.yahoo.co.jp/fight/other/photo/2011/2011072408/5/index.html


(http://sports.c.yimg.jp/spnavi/photo/fight/201107/24/20110724057.jpg)

(http://sports.c.yimg.jp/spnavi/photo/fight/201107/24/20110724067.jpg)

And more from Youji Kawauchi on FB:

http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.261017323915836.85979.100000227128914

Didn't see any fan reaction yet, but for 12 minutes it reads like they did like a powerhouse sprint.
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: Sabrina the Teenage Cracker on July 25, 2011, 07:04:08 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/RvB31.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/NK3rN.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/4Dq6B.jpg)
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: luckycleareyes on July 26, 2011, 12:06:31 PM
(http://i53.tinypic.com/ir2vpt.jpg)

So Rossy Ogawa has become enamored with Mercedes. Originally when he met her at the airport he was somewhat shocked she wasn't Mexican, as he's a HUGE lucha mark. When she told him she's Puerto Rican he wasn't sure what to expect from her wrestling.

Well, she did great in her match as we konw and Rossy posted in his blog that that she was a "hit," has a great "charm" and that he hopes to bring her back and called her a "...right lucky find."

Mercedes went out after to the STARDOM afterparty, where apparently Fuka got completely smashed.

(http://i52.tinypic.com/mt5pvd.jpg)
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: AyumiFan1 on July 28, 2011, 11:05:22 PM
Just In Case Anybody Wanted to See The Match here it is

Nanae Takahashi vs. Mercedes Martinez at STARDOM 7/24.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBO9xZYW0j0&feature=feedu
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: UnstableProtagonist on September 28, 2011, 08:10:39 AM
Zeuxis has been teaching Mia Yim the Sky Twister Press.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdVQuFjJNSU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdVQuFjJNSU)
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: luckycleareyes on October 24, 2011, 07:48:29 AM
Just saw this on the SMASH site -  http://www.smashxsmash.jp/cgi-bin/challenge/diary.cgi?no=134

All Japan PRo Wrestling is doing a show in Taipei, Taiwan on November 5th - 6th.

TAJIRI and Makoto are on the card, along with Cheerleader Melissa...

On the 5th it will be :

Ultimo Dragon & BUSHI & Makoto
vs
Dark dragon & BLACK BUSHI & Cheerleader Melissa


and on the 6th:

Makoto
vs
Cheerleader Melissa


Wonder if Melissa is covering for Serena...

Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: Sabrina the Teenage Cracker on October 25, 2011, 09:02:46 AM
Hopefully Melissa has a good showing and starts getting booked in Japan again  *whee

Sucks about Serena though, but she's assured she's merely postponing her match with melina, which means it isn't as serious as some originally thought.
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: FleetlordAtvar67 on March 02, 2012, 08:41:26 AM
Sarah Stock (aka Sarita (TNA), Dark Angel (Mexico)) is in Japan for the first time in 5 years. She had a "Fantastic first day in Tokyo...a bit of training, press conference and some delicious beef curry for supper."
Just guessing from this pic, that she'll be working a Stardom show.

(http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/417480_403857776297033_196313450384801_1811515_930912707_n.jpg)

Her new t-shirt celebrating her 10 years in wrestling

(http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/422552_403855656297245_196313450384801_1811514_1746675628_n.jpg)
 
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: Sabrina the Teenage Cracker on March 02, 2012, 06:54:42 PM
Wasn't she in Japan for one of the Fuka Matsuri's in 08 or 09?
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: JoshiFanficz on March 03, 2012, 02:16:41 AM
I think she was supposed to work the final Fuka Matsuri show but she couldn't make it so they had someone from Mexico fill in for her.
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: Eivion on March 03, 2012, 08:28:03 AM
No she made the match. It was in February of 09 two shows so yeah that five years number is incorrect.
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: Sabrina the Teenage Cracker on March 03, 2012, 11:37:19 AM
No she made the match. It was in February of 09 two shows so yeah that five years number is incorrect.

Yeah, it was the one where Fuka main evented against Kimura on the second show. I believe stock tagged with her in the main event of the first hsow or something
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: FleetlordAtvar67 on March 05, 2012, 07:55:34 AM
This is how Sarah spent her 32nd birthday in Tokyo with her new friend Io Shirai
(http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/422150_405837392765738_196313450384801_1819837_852349372_n.jpg)

(http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/417266_406224109393733_196313450384801_1821425_1234298285_n.jpg)
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: FleetlordAtvar67 on March 07, 2012, 07:59:00 AM
Sarah being a tourist at Asakusa Shrine
(http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/420527_407590342590443_196313450384801_1826735_1239489849_n.jpg)
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: FleetlordAtvar67 on March 10, 2013, 07:10:00 AM
Sarah Stock is back in Japan with Stardom.
Here she is before and after her 6 woman tag match in Takamatsu
(http://i448.photobucket.com/albums/qq208/puropride/NWA%20JPP/SarahYuzuki_zps383a4bf0.png)
(http://i448.photobucket.com/albums/qq208/puropride/NWA%20JPP/sarahYuzukiIo_zps18a03755.png)
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: JoshiFanficz on March 10, 2013, 04:14:51 PM
Seriously, how has Melissa not been booked in Japan since ARSION?
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: FLIK on March 10, 2013, 04:58:57 PM
Pro Wrestling Sun
All Japan
4 years under TNA contract + A stint w Ring Ka King
No political ties to anyone that would pay to bring her over
Probably not willing to fly herself
Possibly not interested in staying thear for months at a time
Not a big enough name that most would want to bring her over for a few one shot deals
Just a big enough name that she probably wouldn't do it for dirt cheap if someone was interested

She's been booked in Japan/by Japanese companies a few times since ARSION
Multiple potential reasons why it hasn't happened often
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: Sabrina the Teenage Cracker on March 10, 2013, 06:35:33 PM
She went to Japan for ARSION, JD Star, and Sun. And also had a stint in taiwan for AJP.

The only company with any money to fly her over is STarDom and as flik said, she has no ties there outside of Hailey and even that isn't anythign more than Hailey really loving their match in Canada and wanting a repeat. The only girls going to Japan right now are young girls who are willing to pay their flight for the experience. I suspect the only reason Del Rey went was one last hurrah before signing with WWE.

Shame though, as even though she's slown down a bit this year, she's still in the top 3 indy workers in north america going.
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: FLIK on March 10, 2013, 07:17:10 PM
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I suspect the only reason Del Rey went was one last hurrah before signing with WWE.

Guy who money marks REINA is big on foreign talent + Sara's tight with Hotta from the AtoZ days so i'd assume they most likely paid her trans.

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The only girls going to Japan right now are young girls who are willing to pay their flight for the experience.

Mostly. Some pay, some get flew over but work for cheap. On her WOW podcast int a while back Skater went into a lot of detail basicly exsplaining that when the girls go over, they get promised x amount of bookings and the chance to train at the dojos and that's it. Anything extra is on them. Tells a funny story of how she got her Stardom bookings because she got drunk with Nanae one night and she took a liking to her.
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: FleetlordAtvar67 on March 17, 2013, 07:28:51 AM
the Rate Tank and Dark Angel before teaming up tonight at Korakuen Hall
(http://i448.photobucket.com/albums/qq208/puropride/NWA%20JPP/DarkAngelRateTank_zps174b94aa.jpg)
Title: Re: The Gaijin Thread
Post by: FleetlordAtvar67 on December 03, 2015, 09:41:59 AM
Kellie Skater and the newly blonde Evie have arrived in Japan for three months

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CVTQ-l8UwAAV0yR.jpg)